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mahina

(19,752 posts)
53. What stirs the young and old who are our challenge now,
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:03 AM
Nov 2024

is disinformation and information bubbles.

Hoping to remember who wrote an article I read today about a new method of disinfo- embedding a revolting lie in the middle of what looks like a pro-Harris ad.

I don't have any happy talk for you but hope you can think about Timothy Snider, keep listening and reading and you find your center again. Thank you for being here with us. Also seconding the lounge suggestion though you know your mind. Sending you aloha and a prayer to hold the light.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-disinformation-defined-the-2024-election-narrative/
There are many reasons for the stunning election victories of Donald Trump and congressional Republicans: inflation fears, concerns about border security, worries about cultural issues related to race, gender, and sexuality, and feelings that President Joe Biden and the country as a whole were headed in the wrong direction. As my colleague Bill Galston persuasively has argued, people’s judgements about inflation and immigration were harsh during this election season, and these views harmed their assessments of Kamala Harris and strengthened the case for Trump.
But we can’t ignore the ways in which disinformation shaped views about the candidates, affected how voters saw leader performance, and generated widespread media attention. As Elaine Kamarck and I argue in our Brookings Press book “Lies That Kill: A Citizen’s Guide to Disinformation,” there are systematic and organized efforts to shape public opinion in many areas, from public health and climate change to race relations.
So, we shouldn’t be surprised that the same thing happened during the 2024 election. Campaign examples this fall include the infamous stories about immigrants eating cats and dogs, hurricane disaster relief funding going to undocumented immigrants, Kamala Harris in a swimsuit hugging convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, and the supposed case of Tim Walz abusing a young man 30 years ago. Disinformation flowed into our info-ecosystem from other countries as well. One video featured a Haitian man (although he was not really Haitian) saying he had just gotten to the United States and had voted in two counties—Gwinnett and Fulton—in Georgia, but it turned out to be a fake video made in Russia.
These and other efforts were successful in shaping the campaign narrative because they were disseminated broadly on social media platforms, promoted through funny memes, picked up and publicized by mainstream media outlets, circulated by internet mega-influencers, and amplified by leading candidates during rallies, debates, and interviews. In a situation where public confidence in news reporters is very low and new generative AI tools make it easy to create and disseminate fake pictures, videos, and narratives, the 2024 campaign was rife with organized efforts to sway voters, twist perceptions, and make people believe negative material about various candidates. /snip

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💙🤗 LiberalLoner Nov 2024 #1
Mahalo for all your Protests, albacore! Cha Nov 2024 #2
What Cha said Wednesdays Nov 2024 #69
Well said, Wednesdays.. Cha Nov 2024 #85
Smooth sailing. Magoo48 Nov 2024 #3
Yes, I get your feelings here. I"m 85 and I don't give a shit what people think any more, but I am not quiet about it, CTyankee Nov 2024 #4
Same for me. First time in my life I feel like this. SharonAnn Nov 2024 #94
My mom says the same. 85, physically breaking down, and exhausted haele Nov 2024 #5
I'm honestly grateful my mum is not around to see this Skittles Nov 2024 #15
Same here, my dad BlueSky3 Nov 2024 #62
I know a West Pointer who makes excuses for these fascists Skittles Nov 2024 #90
He probably would have BlueSky3 Nov 2024 #98
Interesting. Peace and good health to your mom. I m concerned for my grandchildren on two fronts, fascism and climate c. Magoo48 Nov 2024 #79
Your mother sounds like a person I would like to know! She has perspective. We are the same age. CTyankee Nov 2024 #93
I understand. I share much of your feelings but someone said something to me that made me feel like I could hlthe2b Nov 2024 #6
A journey of a thousand miles canetoad Nov 2024 #31
Thank you SimplyHadEnough Nov 2024 #43
Take good care mzmolly Nov 2024 #7
don't leave us, just stick to the Lounge for a while Skittles Nov 2024 #8
agree!! The Lounge has bailed out my brain any number of times. nt yellowdogintexas Nov 2024 #12
Great idea! Nt Hope22 Nov 2024 #13
This. nt Wednesdays Nov 2024 #70
THIS malaise Nov 2024 #87
Hear ya. One of my earliest memories was of my mother and elder sister crying over Adlai. UTUSN Nov 2024 #9
Yes. My grandmother wrecked her car when Eisenhower won. ananda Nov 2024 #16
We've topped them with relating. UTUSN Nov 2024 #22
My mum crying about Adlai late on yorkster Nov 2024 #41
Yeah, needed to clarify mom and sis were torn up FOR/OVER Adlai, no mention of Eisenhower/Repukes. UTUSN Nov 2024 #46
My father wrote to Adlai Stevenson after yorkster Nov 2024 #47
Yip, we've got the best, noblest, most intelligent ones who give the best concession speeches. UTUSN Nov 2024 #48
Oh, that's tough. Had forgotten about yorkster Nov 2024 #49
I'm 5 years younger but I feel like you, at times. I did not serve in the military Deuxcents Nov 2024 #10
Take care of yourself! Hope22 Nov 2024 #11
My heart goes out to you for all you have done and gone through Tribetime Nov 2024 #14
I'm 91 and when the headline says "Trump" I skip it. phxjurist Nov 2024 #17
omg! ecstatic Nov 2024 #19
I wish there was a way to filter out Trump for my news Skittles Nov 2024 #23
I completely understand! ... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #36
I hear ya. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2024 #18
I hear ya . Permanut Nov 2024 #20
Same here PatSeg Nov 2024 #67
Me too, I'm pooped out. BigmanPigman Nov 2024 #74
Oh yes, I think that is true for lots of people PatSeg Nov 2024 #86
Plus, Codifer Nov 2024 #91
Especially the "optimism" PatSeg Nov 2024 #95
There was a time, Codifer Nov 2024 #96
I remember those days PatSeg Nov 2024 #100
I remember those days PatSeg Nov 2024 #101
Well, I hope you change your mind from time to time, my friend. calimary Nov 2024 #21
THIS malaise Nov 2024 #55
Same godsentme Nov 2024 #24
I'm coming right up behind you, & honestly don't know where to go from here. Find what you love to do... Hekate Nov 2024 #25
I agree. All the work of albacore and others over the years wnylib Nov 2024 #34
Rest up, step back, and JohnnyLib2 Nov 2024 #26
That long and winding road JR11 Nov 2024 #27
I'm near you, age-wise, and not giving up; elleng Nov 2024 #28
You have fought the good fight Mountain Mule Nov 2024 #29
Humans have been through this before Beck23 Nov 2024 #30
Super leery about the Bonhoeffer movie. carpetbagger Nov 2024 #50
You have reason to be leery... regnaD kciN Nov 2024 #102
I'm not as worried about the Proud Altar Boys, more about the meh folks. carpetbagger Nov 2024 #108
A song by Phil Ochs DeeDeeNY Nov 2024 #32
Thank you Albacore! ZDU Nov 2024 #33
I'm 72 and have traveled a similar path Pototan Nov 2024 #35
Thanks for sharing your story, albacore. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #37
It's totally understandable. pandr32 Nov 2024 #38
I am a lot younger than you but older and this is it for me Meowmee Nov 2024 #39
I agree. I hope you land in a better place Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #83
Thanks 😁 Meowmee Nov 2024 #105
I'm sorry and acknowledge how stressful it all is. We're about to witness a dark chapter I fear. Best wishes, ED Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #107
my Dad died at age 94 just before the election MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #40
Thank you all for your recs MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #56
Thanks for your service. confoosed Nov 2024 #42
One of the best posts on DU...ever. IMO. C Moon Nov 2024 #44
God Bless You !! Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #45
Thanks for leading the way. I wish more had listened to you. Find something peaceful to do. LT Barclay Nov 2024 #51
tired too tmars505 Nov 2024 #52
I'm so sorry for your loss PatSeg Nov 2024 #68
What stirs the young and old who are our challenge now, mahina Nov 2024 #53
While I will be BlueMTexpat Nov 2024 #54
I'm 11 years younger with a lot of similarities in my history Jarqui Nov 2024 #57
6o something Kali999 Nov 2024 #61
You've earned your R & R surfered Nov 2024 #58
Maybe DownriverDem Nov 2024 #59
I'm 6 years younger and wobbling on the fence. I don't know what to do with myself. I can't seem to Vinca Nov 2024 #60
Welp..... fightvision81 Nov 2024 #63
Wish I could persuade you to stay. Paladin Nov 2024 #64
I'm with you albacore. I hope I'll see a revolt that will bring back the USA I knew Fla Dem Nov 2024 #65
Stay safe and healthy, albacore. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #66
I'm 80. Fought for the same things as you. Ping Tung Nov 2024 #71
I know how you feel. homegirl Nov 2024 #72
I'm only 61 and I feel the same way. n/t SpankMe Nov 2024 #73
Understandable. 634-5789 Nov 2024 #75
What those young whippersnappers" are going to have to do is refight all the battles that were gained like a women's JohnSJ Nov 2024 #76
Thank you for your service in the military and as a civilian. awesomerwb1 Nov 2024 #77
Better to burn out than fade away! Joe_Gadway Nov 2024 #78
Please Take a Rest Beowulf42 Nov 2024 #80
Be well. NotHardly Nov 2024 #81
I hear you. Thank you for all you've done and let's hope we can still vote. Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #82
I'm 72, and I entirely understand where you are coming from. I'm doing my best to recover from the disappointment, Martin68 Nov 2024 #84
I get you. stollen Nov 2024 #88
"Argument is senseless at this point, " Septua Nov 2024 #89
I turned Codifer Nov 2024 #92
I'm only 79, but I feel very much the same way you do. soldierant Nov 2024 #97
Love you. Thank you. Be well and be happy. Oopsie Daisy Nov 2024 #99
Feel much the same way. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2024 #103
74 here and I also totally understand. Although I know you will not be able to stop - it's in yout DNA. walkingman Nov 2024 #104
Thank you for posting this ribrepin Nov 2024 #106
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