Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
49. here are some links
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 10:08 PM
Dec 2012
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/29/study-legalizing-medical-marijuana-reduces-traffic-fatalities/

From a study by the Institute for the Study of Labor - Legalizing Marijuana Reduces Traffic Fatalities.

Opponents of medical marijuana often focus on the social detriment to making America’s most valuable cash crop available to those approved by doctors, arguing that medical marijuana legalization makes it easier for teens to buy pot and that they’ll soon move to more dangerous drugs. They also suggest that legalization would increase the number of vehicle accidents — and that very argument was one of the main reasons why California voters did not approve full legalization in 2010.

Studying data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, researchers also found that legalizing medical marijuana did, in fact, drive up usage among adults. But contrary to medical marijuana critics’ claims, they were unable to find evidence of it growing the number of minors on the drug.

A further analysis of data from the Fatality Analysis Reporting System, spanning from 1990 to 2009, revealed that states which legalized medical marijuana saw a decline in alcohol consumption. A decline in traffic fatalities was a direct side effect of that.

Traffic fatalities are the leading cause of death for Americans age 35 and under.


Here's an article from a while ago about driving and marijuana -

http://www.pewstates.org/projects/stateline/headlines/driving-laws-explained-in-the-medical-marijuana-age-how-high-is-too-high-to-drive-85899381036

...Concerns over cannabis intoxication won’t go away. Voters in Colorado and Washington State will decide whether to legalize recreational marijuana use, while a dozen more states are considering legalizing marijuana for medical purposes. In this explainer, Stateline examines the research surrounding marijuana and road safety, and explores why it’s so difficult to say how high is too high to drive.

...According to a study by researchers from Yale University, alcohol-impaired drivers struggle with complex tasks like merging onto a crowded highway, but can generally perform automatic functions like turning on the car. Marijuana users, however, can better handle complex situations than simple tasks like following the curve of a road. The Yale study also notes that the effects of cannabis can vary a lot more between individuals than with alcohol. Factors such as a user’s age, weight, tolerance and smoking technique all can make a large difference in how the body absorbs THC.

Users of alcohol and marijuana also differ in their perceptions of their own impairment. Alcohol users tend to underestimate their level of impairment and drive faster and more recklessly. Drivers with a blood alcohol level of 0.04 percent — half the legal limit in most states — experienced impaired driving performance even though drivers themselves rated themselves as unimpaired, according to a frequently cited 1993 study from the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA).

By contrast, marijuana users tend to overestimate their impairment and don’t display as many obvious impairment symptoms. In the same government study, drivers who were given about one-third of a joint to smoke rated themselves as impaired even though their driving performance was not.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722956/#__articleid2994706aff-info


Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Roadside sobriety tests, I presume, just like they have now arcane1 Dec 2012 #1
But, as with alcohol, just because you can walk a more or less straight line Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #3
If someone can walk a line and pass a field sobriety test, morningfog Dec 2012 #46
But, they would likely have done something showing impaired judgment Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #48
An experienced cop can find a reason to pull anyone over after following them morningfog Dec 2012 #51
Agree about some elderly drivers--a menace to themselves and everybody else. Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #56
I've been wondering how they would measure how much under the influence with pot ... RKP5637 Dec 2012 #5
in WA it changed- for the worse green for victory Dec 2012 #11
Very informative, green for victory. Thanks for taking the time to Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #22
.05 nanograms or greater of THC in the blood stream green for victory Dec 2012 #66
Wow! Who knew that those referendum votes in WA and CO Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #70
marijuana kasper2 Dec 2017 #94
Yeah, that's a disaster. I knew about it but am across the boarder in Idaho. It almost makes brewens Dec 2012 #57
I think you've nailed it green for victory Dec 2012 #67
The guy in this video is outraged too: JaneyVee Dec 2012 #40
Dude. Getting pulled over kills your buzz! You can pass that field sobriety test no problem! brewens Dec 2012 #54
Indeed it does! arcane1 Dec 2012 #60
I've wondered the same. Maybe some form of sobriety test for walking, hand/body positions and all RKP5637 Dec 2012 #2
That's precisely my brother's medical POV... Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #4
Yep, and it's an excellent question!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #7
But it already is illegal Spike89 Dec 2012 #86
Pot should be legal everyplace. What I was wondering is how is a fair test administered if RKP5637 Dec 2012 #88
They've been doing it for decades Spike89 Dec 2012 #92
Thanks! Good analysis! RKP5637 Dec 2012 #93
What is being done right now? Kalidurga Dec 2012 #6
According to my brother, a driver suspected of DUI for drugs is Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #8
I went to school with a guy that claimed the same for alcohol. He said if he had had a few RKP5637 Dec 2012 #9
One of the things I was told to look for as far as drunk drivers was... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #10
Know that "slow-drive" routine well from my younger, Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #13
I've come across drivers at night going along slowly, maybe 45 in a 55 zone ... RKP5637 Dec 2012 #20
The French anti-drunk driving movement Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #25
+1, n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #28
A guy I know says- digonswine Dec 2012 #12
Haven't toked up for many a long year, so it's hard to remember Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #15
So I am told- digonswine Dec 2012 #18
Agree--better a pothead than a drunk, any time! Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #36
acccording to recent tests, 2 to 3 hours per "high" RainDog Dec 2012 #41
Hey, Rain Dog, thanks for all of this pertinent information. Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #47
here are some links RainDog Dec 2012 #49
Excellent documentary evidence, RainDog. Thanks for taking the trouble Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #52
No problem at all RainDog Dec 2012 #55
I'm such an "habitué" of GD that I didn't even know there Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #58
How long does THC stay in the system? blueamy66 Dec 2012 #14
For several days or even up to a week. If you've toked up within the last Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #16
Of course, those tests look for it being present *at all* Posteritatis Dec 2012 #24
For drugs testing in schools, prisons, etc., yes. Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #30
Businesses etc. can titrate the tests to allow someone to have smoked over a weekend RainDog Dec 2012 #42
Good point about being non-THC impaired at work. As a doctor, Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #45
It was the same issue before legalization RainDog Dec 2012 #65
like I said up-thread, better a pothead than a drunk anytime! Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #71
Businesses are starting to use their antidrug policies as a marketing tool jmowreader Dec 2012 #85
These are going to be interesting times RainDog Dec 2012 #89
THC stays in the system for an avg. of 2 hours RainDog Dec 2012 #53
Driving under influence of marijuana is already illegal so just enforce it the same way it is limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #17
But, as I explained up-thread, some people appear "sober" during roadside Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #19
I don't see any connection to the legalization issue. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #27
That's just what I'm wondering, limpy... Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #32
I'm not against something like the THC tests because it may be the price we have to pay to limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #35
Thanks for the informative link, limpy. I think Mr. Rees may Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #38
Gee, we better make alcohol illegal because of these problems tabasco Dec 2012 #21
Well, just half a gram over the legal limit can get you Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #29
Don't think it will be that tricky. Sobriety tests? DirkGently Dec 2012 #23
Straight lines and follow the finger are still used on occasion, according to my brother-- Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #26
No one has to take a sobriety test. former9thward Dec 2012 #33
I think the penalty here is a suspended license. DirkGently Dec 2012 #61
From my limited experience, I'd say reaction times would be the problem with pot muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #31
Good points, muriel--just get them to catch the ball. Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #34
TTTD RegieRocker Dec 2012 #37
But, what about toking up at the wheel? As fas as I Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #43
Open container laws were not RegieRocker Dec 2012 #90
True enough...you see it on the road everyday. Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #91
sobriety tests Skittles Dec 2012 #39
True enough--I expect the DMVs in WA and CO are Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #44
your ability to resist a cheeto, for example Skittles Dec 2012 #64
Bwaaahaaaaa! Or maybe having an inordinate number of munchy bags Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #72
No, he doesn't. He sees the results of accidents where marijuana is present and assigns Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #50
Believe me, that was part of my counter argument. Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #59
I don't think I would. If we are to assume that the surgeon is well experienced, I'd rather have him Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #63
My bro is an ER doc and deals with "mutiple trauma Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #73
Traffic fatalities down 12% 2010 compared to 2009 in California. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #62
Excellent trend. But, of course, my RW MD brother in CA would Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #74
He can say whatever he wants, what he can't do is claim that Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #77
Medical MJ, immigration, "anchor babies", welfare cheats--he's got Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #80
How Pot Metabolizes jmowreader Dec 2012 #68
Bwaaahaaaaa! Love the mental picture! Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #75
You know, Le Few, I've been thinking... jmowreader Dec 2012 #87
A limit will require... AgainsttheCrown Dec 2012 #69
Hey, AgainsttheCrown, thanks for checking in! I was hoping Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #76
I found the backstory on .08 AgainsttheCrown Dec 2012 #82
Really interesting link, AtC. Thanks for finding and posting... Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #84
How have the infractions been determined up to now? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #78
LOL! The ol' "slow-drive while stoned" trick. Know it well, but never got stopped, thank heaven! Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #79
The current test is for THC only, not metabolites eridani Dec 2012 #81
Thanks for your take on this, eridani. You made some pertinent points... Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #83
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»How will over-the-limit, ...»Reply #49