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dalton99a

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Fri Nov 22, 2024, 09:41 AM Nov 2024

The 'Landslide' That Wasn't: Trump and Allies Pump Up His Narrow Victory [View all]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/22/us/politics/trump-election-landslide.html

The ‘Landslide’ That Wasn’t: Trump and Allies Pump Up His Narrow Victory
The latest vote count shows that Donald J. Trump won the popular vote by one of the smallest margins since the 19th century. But Mr. Trump claims a “powerful mandate.”
By Peter Baker
Nov. 22, 2024 Updated 9:13 a.m. ET

On the night he won a second term, President-elect Donald J. Trump rejoiced in the moment. “America has given us an unprecedented and powerful mandate,” he boasted. In the two weeks since, his campaign has repeatedly heralded his “landslide,” even to market Trump merchandise like the “Official Trump Victory Glass.”

But by traditional numeric measures, Mr. Trump’s victory was neither unprecedented nor a landslide. In fact, he prevailed with one of the smallest margins of victory in the popular vote since the 19th century and generated little of the coattails of a true landslide.

The disconnect goes beyond predictable Trumpian braggadocio. The incoming president and his team are trying to cement the impression of a “resounding margin,” as one aide called it, to make Mr. Trump seem more popular than he is and strengthen his hand in forcing through his agenda in the months to come.

With some votes still being counted, the tally used by The New York Times showed Mr. Trump winning the popular vote with 49.997 percent as of Thursday night, and he appears likely to fall below that once the final results are in, meaning he would not capture a majority. Another count used by CNN and other outlets shows him winning 49.9 percent. By either reckoning, his margin over Vice President Kamala Harris was about 1.6 percentage points, the third smallest since 1888, and could ultimately end up around 1.5 points.

“If the definition of landslide is you win both the popular vote and Electoral College vote, that’s a new definition,” said Lynn Vavreck, a political science professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, and author of “Identity Crisis” about Mr. Trump’s first election, in 2016. “I would not classify this outcome as a landslide that turns into evidence of desire for a huge shift of direction or policy.”

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Robert Reich pointed this out too recently. Passages Nov 2024 #1
+1. Trump and his cult always try to rewrite history dalton99a Nov 2024 #2
Is it too soon to look forward to 2026? mwb970 Nov 2024 #3
Of course not, given that pretty much started on November 6. CBHagman Nov 2024 #5
Great. Just Great. We have a President that Lies about lying about lying. chouchou Nov 2024 #4
Fuck Peter Baker..... displacedvermoter Nov 2024 #6
These mainstream media outlets are all so pathetic. Wiz Imp Nov 2024 #7
The real number is about 230,000 SCantiGOP Nov 2024 #8
Yes, and by that metric I suppose W's margin was narrowest, 537 votes in Florida (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2024 #9
What does it matter edhopper Nov 2024 #10
Did the Dems ask for even ONE hand recount of a state's votes? n/t LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2024 #15
So much for the "20 million missing votes PROVES they stole it in 2020!!!" BS Callie1979 Nov 2024 #11
Only landslide one would want is Pas-de-Calais Nov 2024 #12
Bad Don! No Mandate. Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #13
Question: Do we add to T***p's number of lies (30,000+), or begin anew? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2024 #14
This is called "Polishing the Turd" WarGamer Nov 2024 #16
Oh, you! Once again belittling California as if its millions of votes don't count. W_HAMILTON Nov 2024 #17
hmmmm... WarGamer Nov 2024 #18
As Timothy Snyder says, when The Leader says it, it's the truth. ancianita Nov 2024 #19
Donald Trump had one of the smallest margins of victory in the modern era. LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #20
The bastard suppressed votes Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #21
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