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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/22/us/politics/trump-election-landslide.htmlThe Landslide That Wasnt: Trump and Allies Pump Up His Narrow Victory
The latest vote count shows that Donald J. Trump won the popular vote by one of the smallest margins since the 19th century. But Mr. Trump claims a powerful mandate.
By Peter Baker
Nov. 22, 2024 Updated 9:13 a.m. ET
On the night he won a second term, President-elect Donald J. Trump rejoiced in the moment. America has given us an unprecedented and powerful mandate, he boasted. In the two weeks since, his campaign has repeatedly heralded his landslide, even to market Trump merchandise like the Official Trump Victory Glass.
But by traditional numeric measures, Mr. Trumps victory was neither unprecedented nor a landslide. In fact, he prevailed with one of the smallest margins of victory in the popular vote since the 19th century and generated little of the coattails of a true landslide.
The disconnect goes beyond predictable Trumpian braggadocio. The incoming president and his team are trying to cement the impression of a resounding margin, as one aide called it, to make Mr. Trump seem more popular than he is and strengthen his hand in forcing through his agenda in the months to come.
With some votes still being counted, the tally used by The New York Times showed Mr. Trump winning the popular vote with 49.997 percent as of Thursday night, and he appears likely to fall below that once the final results are in, meaning he would not capture a majority. Another count used by CNN and other outlets shows him winning 49.9 percent. By either reckoning, his margin over Vice President Kamala Harris was about 1.6 percentage points, the third smallest since 1888, and could ultimately end up around 1.5 points.
If the definition of landslide is you win both the popular vote and Electoral College vote, thats a new definition, said Lynn Vavreck, a political science professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, and author of Identity Crisis about Mr. Trumps first election, in 2016. I would not classify this outcome as a landslide that turns into evidence of desire for a huge shift of direction or policy.
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The 'Landslide' That Wasn't: Trump and Allies Pump Up His Narrow Victory [View all]
dalton99a
Nov 2024
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Yes, and by that metric I suppose W's margin was narrowest, 537 votes in Florida (n/t)
thesquanderer
Nov 2024
#9
Did the Dems ask for even ONE hand recount of a state's votes? n/t
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
Nov 2024
#15
So much for the "20 million missing votes PROVES they stole it in 2020!!!" BS
Callie1979
Nov 2024
#11
Question: Do we add to T***p's number of lies (30,000+), or begin anew?
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
Nov 2024
#14
Oh, you! Once again belittling California as if its millions of votes don't count.
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2024
#17
Donald Trump had one of the smallest margins of victory in the modern era.
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2024
#20