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Bluetus

(2,752 posts)
130. Did we learn a lesson from this?
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 02:17 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Tue Nov 26, 2024, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

The lesson is that we must never take any advice from the "when they go low, we go high" crowd.

We are in a battle for the very existence of our democracy, and we need to act like it. Those who insist that we must always be the adults in the room need to step aside. It is clear they aren't part of any solution that will work.

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Historians will not be kind. Sneederbunk Nov 2024 #1
Hopefully they will be honest SledDriver Nov 2024 #20
THIS onecaliberal Nov 2024 #24
But who is going to print the history books of this topic? Bezos? NYTimes? Washington Post? LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #39
Right now, my money's on someone from Canada or the UK (n/t) derby378 Nov 2024 #123
"Hopefully" being the key word. KPN Nov 2024 #41
if he was complicit, why did he approve charges at all? bigtree Nov 2024 #69
He did enough not to get fired. LuvLoogie Nov 2024 #82
Just refer to him by his new moniker, "Speedy" G world wide wally Nov 2024 #132
Really? Cirsium Nov 2024 #136
. bigtree Nov 2024 #140
Hold on, what do you mean complicite? arthritisR_US Nov 2024 #146
Biden appointed him bikes and bunnies Nov 2024 #36
there it is. Was wondering when it would get around to blaming the president bigtree Nov 2024 #83
"The buck stops here" Cirsium Nov 2024 #138
Yes Rebl2 Nov 2024 #142
And it shouldn't be kind to Garland. oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #42
In 100 years this moment will be regarded the same way SouthBayDem Nov 2024 #50
He should have dealt with them the correct way Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #78
This is exactly right. choie Nov 2024 #80
I don't Rebl2 Nov 2024 #51
"Historians will not be kind." B.See Nov 2024 #65
Sure. When it's legal to be a historian again. Nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2024 #79
History is written by the winners, so.... (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #102
And artists tell the true story SheltieLover Nov 2024 #155
No they will not. ificandream Nov 2024 #161
I suspect it worked out how he wanted. Is he a rethug mole? brush Nov 2024 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Nov 2024 #52
Do you think president Obama would have chosen him jimfields33 Nov 2024 #127
Obama picked him because republicon senators FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #151
I haven't been able to find anything saying so Lulu KC Nov 2024 #144
Not a mole, just the usual DoJ institutionalist Bluetus Nov 2024 #131
I don't know about that. The Federalist Society member Garland could very well be a deeply burrowed rethug mole. brush Nov 2024 #134
What I'm saying is the ENTIRE DOJ is far-right authoritarians Bluetus Nov 2024 #135
I agree with that. SC Smith I'd say was trying to do his best to try and convict trump. Garland IMO nerver was... brush Nov 2024 #141
I agree Smith tried his best, but he had no superpowers Bluetus Nov 2024 #143
I can hardly wait for his "memoirs" Mike 03 Nov 2024 #3
No one on the bottom ratted out TSF. gab13by13 Nov 2024 #4
Garland won't release anything. Wouldn't want to embarrass any Republicans. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #5
This was never a mob case. The yahoos weren't operatives TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #31
I believe there were operatives... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #55
Well, I can't rule it out but I've seen little that couldn't just be what would pass for random yahoos taking charge TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #137
You'd have to talk to merrick garland about that.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #139
I regret believing Marcy Wheeler's bullshit. Emptywheel had no special insight, no experience, no relevant expertise. thebigidea Nov 2024 #60
Report, REPORT , what report we kacekwl Nov 2024 #54
You are correct malaise Nov 2024 #119
I really like how no one is above the law. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #6
As angry as most of us are, can you imagine how Jack Smith feels? A waste of his last two years? hlthe2b Nov 2024 #7
It's awful. Garland played him just like he played the rest of us ecstatic Nov 2024 #109
Jack Smith's work wasn't wasted by him. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #154
Obviously. n/t hlthe2b Nov 2024 #157
Merrick is a fraud. When history called for a hero - we got... a zero. Oh well! RIP rule of law. Blues Heron Nov 2024 #8
Garland spent vast resources protecting billionaires from bitcoin theft and TSF from Iran's Revolutionary Guards. usonian Nov 2024 #9
Aren't the Nobodies going to get pardoned? MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #12
The future is not written yet. usonian Nov 2024 #23
Well don't forget he kept us safe from... Chrome browsers ecstatic Nov 2024 #110
Chrome will probably go to the highest bidder. usonian Nov 2024 #112
Holy crap! 😳 nt ecstatic Nov 2024 #114
Watch InfoWars and MSNBC. usonian Nov 2024 #118
I can't even.... yardwork Nov 2024 #10
Biden's other choice for AG was Doug Jones MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #13
Trump would still be a free man and president-elect. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #115
Jones would have started on Trump 2 years earlier MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #121
Garland didn't wait two years Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #124
A live trial of the documents case would have made an impression MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #145
Smith started on third base thanks to Garland's groundwork Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #150
On whatever base way too late MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #160
He'll get a job at a DC firm peregrinus Nov 2024 #15
I guess Garland ran out of patience and Emile Nov 2024 #11
A true servant of the Mafia State tenderfoot Nov 2024 #14
that's kinda harsh. bigtree Nov 2024 #117
Memo to American: Magoo48 Nov 2024 #16
The investigation into Trump started before Garland was sworn in Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #17
And waited until November of 2022 to appoint Jack Smith edhopper Nov 2024 #22
Don't even bother. It's like the armless, legless knight from Monty Python. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #28
Smith was appointed 48 hours after Trump declared his candidacy Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #29
So why one for Hunter Biden? edhopper Nov 2024 #35
Hunter was the son of a sitting president Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #38
Which violates edhopper Nov 2024 #73
No DOJ protocol against prosecuting the relative of a sitting president Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #75
Sticking to "appropriate" and "norms" when being attacked is where Garland leadership failed, you hit back hard and ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #89
it's not as if the person Garland was prosecuting was his boss' rival in the election bigtree Nov 2024 #108
that's untrue bigtree Nov 2024 #61
Still flogging edhopper Nov 2024 #74
still bringing fact-free derisions about a legal process you haven't bothered to understand bigtree Nov 2024 #81
We understand we're fucked and Garland could've done something to start a special council sooner all the rest is words uponit7771 Nov 2024 #90
the SC wouldn't make the evidence available any sooner bigtree Nov 2024 #97
Don't agree on principle but its not my assertion a SC would have made evidence available any sooner. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #98
the actual purpose of the SC was because Trump had declared bigtree Nov 2024 #99
Trump was not the only SC target, I don't know what you're position is here. Garland could've called for SC on day ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #100
the reason for that is unclear bigtree Nov 2024 #105
There was enough empirical evidence against Benedict Donald to start special counsel on day one. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #88
You don't understand the definition of the role of a special counsel Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #91
You could've just said "... I agree..." and left it at that. The rest of your words don't address my assertion. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #92
that was pretty clear bigtree Nov 2024 #107
Your first sentence would've been 100% improvement and a good justification for SC on day 1... We agree uponit7771 Nov 2024 #125
But I don't agree Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #113
We're close enough uponit7771 Nov 2024 #126
Interesting. MotownPgh Nov 2024 #129
Most were unionized employees who couldn't be fired at will Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #133
This checks out. MotownPgh Nov 2024 #158
Biden and Garland's meritless, delusional faith in institutions they were part of RockRaven Nov 2024 #18
Just be patient and moniss Nov 2024 #19
it sure did work out great barbtries Nov 2024 #21
Imagine nowforever Nov 2024 #25
His best friend owns the clown court. He can't investigate his bestie. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #26
But Marcy Emptywheel says there are secret and magical things happening!!1! Patience, Grasshopper!!1! Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #27
I told you she was.trcksy, I told you she was false. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #33
where you pretend you read emptywheel bigtree Nov 2024 #63
Yup, for trump not to good for the country, but, the case is not to political, thankfully. republianmushroom Nov 2024 #30
This is disgraceful. lees1975 Nov 2024 #32
I think you're wrong on at least one point - Manchin and others wouldn't have voted for changing the Supreme Court groundloop Nov 2024 #43
Exactly right. ecstatic Nov 2024 #111
He was looking for a money trail BeyondGeography Nov 2024 #34
Merrick Garland will go down in history as a spineless AG who allowed the country to go fascist. n/t PatrickforB Nov 2024 #37
Even if he isn't declared a spineless AG (but he will be), and the fact that he's prosecuted give or take 1000 other SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #53
I'm not a lawyer. markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #40
I call them the debunkers. dchill Nov 2024 #47
I call that a smear bigtree Nov 2024 #59
Basically she blames the SC and the Jan 6 committee Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2024 #70
Most of the defense of Garland is filibuster and sophistry that doesn't address the issue that Garland *COULD* have ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #94
you haven't show here why that would have made any difference bigtree Nov 2024 #101
That's a whole other discussion, right now I'm normalizing the FACT that Garland could've started the SC on day one. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #104
I find the timidity, and rolling over to be the worst gut punch for many of us , and for Lady Liberty. Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #44
That was never what was happening. dchill Nov 2024 #45
Worthless, gutless. dalton99a Nov 2024 #46
Have you read Sarah Kendzior? coffeenap Nov 2024 #48
in the article where she trolls Democrats and Pres. Biden bigtree Nov 2024 #58
Yeah, Sarah used to be good, but she's lost the plot Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #120
She is a clickbait CT kook and should be ignored by any serious person. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #116
Centrist bullshit. Emile Nov 2024 #49
there's no evidence he 'slowly' built a case bigtree Nov 2024 #56
Wheeler has zero fucking credibility. Zero. She hasn't called a damn thing correctly in years. thebigidea Nov 2024 #62
this is like the rest of the criticisms bigtree Nov 2024 #64
Have a modicum of self-awareness then. thebigidea Nov 2024 #68
it's obvious that 'you gained zero insight on anything that happened' bigtree Nov 2024 #71
One thing I'll say for Bmaz Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2024 #77
. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #84
no one said anything of the sort bigtree Nov 2024 #86
Um, no. I have no interest in reading yet another wall o' words. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #93
but your words are superior? bigtree Nov 2024 #95
* sigh* Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #96
I'm sorry bigtree Nov 2024 #106
Didn't work..... claudette Nov 2024 #57
It worked out fantastic. Autumn Nov 2024 #66
If you're looking for blame, Hassler Nov 2024 #67
No edhopper Nov 2024 #72
You sent to be ignoring Loose Cannon Hassler Nov 2024 #76
Have a rotten Thanksgiving, Garland Blue Owl Nov 2024 #85
yeah, thanks a lot for bringing TWO multi-felony indictments bigtree Nov 2024 #87
He was building a very limited case by only targeting the pawns in the Trump criminal operation. jalan48 Nov 2024 #103
I suspect we are living in a time that history will remember as the worst in our country's history. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #122
Not blaming Biden, but his AG and other Dems did not help enough kansasobama Nov 2024 #128
Did we learn a lesson from this? Bluetus Nov 2024 #130
And many of us here were chastised for speaking up early on. hamsterjill Nov 2024 #147
I can't count how many times I was lectured to have patience. Emile Nov 2024 #148
And if you read through this thread edhopper Nov 2024 #149
Apparently they're also on his side FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #152
He had majority support on here iemanja Nov 2024 #153
Yep. I remember that. And his apologists are still waving their swords Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #159
He's still looking for an eraser DaBronx Nov 2024 #156
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