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iemanja

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153. He had majority support on here

Wed Nov 27, 2024, 11:50 AM

Nov 2024

and I've yet to see one of his apologists admit they were wrong.

I'll never forget the person who said she didn't care if Trump was ever prosecuted. I hope she's happy with her new, unjailed president.

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I guess Garland slowly building the case from the bottom up [View all] edhopper Nov 2024 OP

Historians will not be kind. Sneederbunk Nov 2024 #1

Hopefully they will be honest SledDriver Nov 2024 #20

THIS onecaliberal Nov 2024 #24

But who is going to print the history books of this topic? Bezos? NYTimes? Washington Post? LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #39

Right now, my money's on someone from Canada or the UK (n/t) derby378 Nov 2024 #123

"Hopefully" being the key word. KPN Nov 2024 #41

if he was complicit, why did he approve charges at all? bigtree Nov 2024 #69

He did enough not to get fired. LuvLoogie Nov 2024 #82

Just refer to him by his new moniker, "Speedy" G world wide wally Nov 2024 #132

Really? Cirsium Nov 2024 #136

. bigtree Nov 2024 #140

Hold on, what do you mean complicite? arthritisR_US Nov 2024 #146

Biden appointed him bikes and bunnies Nov 2024 #36

there it is. Was wondering when it would get around to blaming the president bigtree Nov 2024 #83

"The buck stops here" Cirsium Nov 2024 #138

Yes Rebl2 Nov 2024 #142

And it shouldn't be kind to Garland. oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #42

In 100 years this moment will be regarded the same way SouthBayDem Nov 2024 #50

He should have dealt with them the correct way Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #78

This is exactly right. choie Nov 2024 #80

I don't Rebl2 Nov 2024 #51

"Historians will not be kind." B.See Nov 2024 #65

Sure. When it's legal to be a historian again. Nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2024 #79

History is written by the winners, so.... (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #102

And artists tell the true story SheltieLover Nov 2024 #155

No they will not. ificandream Nov 2024 #161

I suspect it worked out how he wanted. Is he a rethug mole? brush Nov 2024 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Nov 2024 #52

Do you think president Obama would have chosen him jimfields33 Nov 2024 #127

Obama picked him because republicon senators FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #151

I haven't been able to find anything saying so Lulu KC Nov 2024 #144

Not a mole, just the usual DoJ institutionalist Bluetus Nov 2024 #131

I don't know about that. The Federalist Society member Garland could very well be a deeply burrowed rethug mole. brush Nov 2024 #134

What I'm saying is the ENTIRE DOJ is far-right authoritarians Bluetus Nov 2024 #135

I agree with that. SC Smith I'd say was trying to do his best to try and convict trump. Garland IMO nerver was... brush Nov 2024 #141

I agree Smith tried his best, but he had no superpowers Bluetus Nov 2024 #143

I can hardly wait for his "memoirs" Mike 03 Nov 2024 #3

No one on the bottom ratted out TSF. gab13by13 Nov 2024 #4

Garland won't release anything. Wouldn't want to embarrass any Republicans. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #5

This was never a mob case. The yahoos weren't operatives TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #31

I believe there were operatives... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #55

Well, I can't rule it out but I've seen little that couldn't just be what would pass for random yahoos taking charge TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #137

You'd have to talk to merrick garland about that.... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #139

I regret believing Marcy Wheeler's bullshit. Emptywheel had no special insight, no experience, no relevant expertise. thebigidea Nov 2024 #60

Report, REPORT , what report we kacekwl Nov 2024 #54

You are correct malaise Nov 2024 #119

I really like how no one is above the law. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #6

As angry as most of us are, can you imagine how Jack Smith feels? A waste of his last two years? hlthe2b Nov 2024 #7

It's awful. Garland played him just like he played the rest of us ecstatic Nov 2024 #109

Jack Smith's work wasn't wasted by him. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #154

Obviously. n/t hlthe2b Nov 2024 #157

Merrick is a fraud. When history called for a hero - we got... a zero. Oh well! RIP rule of law. Blues Heron Nov 2024 #8

Garland spent vast resources protecting billionaires from bitcoin theft and TSF from Iran's Revolutionary Guards. usonian Nov 2024 #9

Aren't the Nobodies going to get pardoned? MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #12

The future is not written yet. usonian Nov 2024 #23

Well don't forget he kept us safe from... Chrome browsers ecstatic Nov 2024 #110

Chrome will probably go to the highest bidder. usonian Nov 2024 #112

Holy crap! 😳 nt ecstatic Nov 2024 #114

Watch InfoWars and MSNBC. usonian Nov 2024 #118

I can't even.... yardwork Nov 2024 #10

Biden's other choice for AG was Doug Jones MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #13

Trump would still be a free man and president-elect. Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #115

Jones would have started on Trump 2 years earlier MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #121

Garland didn't wait two years Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #124

A live trial of the documents case would have made an impression MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #145

Smith started on third base thanks to Garland's groundwork Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #150

On whatever base way too late MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #160

He'll get a job at a DC firm peregrinus Nov 2024 #15

I guess Garland ran out of patience and Emile Nov 2024 #11

A true servant of the Mafia State tenderfoot Nov 2024 #14

that's kinda harsh. bigtree Nov 2024 #117

Memo to American: Magoo48 Nov 2024 #16

The investigation into Trump started before Garland was sworn in Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #17

And waited until November of 2022 to appoint Jack Smith edhopper Nov 2024 #22

Don't even bother. It's like the armless, legless knight from Monty Python. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #28

Smith was appointed 48 hours after Trump declared his candidacy Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #29

So why one for Hunter Biden? edhopper Nov 2024 #35

Hunter was the son of a sitting president Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #38

Which violates edhopper Nov 2024 #73

No DOJ protocol against prosecuting the relative of a sitting president Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #75

Sticking to "appropriate" and "norms" when being attacked is where Garland leadership failed, you hit back hard and ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #89

it's not as if the person Garland was prosecuting was his boss' rival in the election bigtree Nov 2024 #108

that's untrue bigtree Nov 2024 #61

Still flogging edhopper Nov 2024 #74

still bringing fact-free derisions about a legal process you haven't bothered to understand bigtree Nov 2024 #81

We understand we're fucked and Garland could've done something to start a special council sooner all the rest is words uponit7771 Nov 2024 #90

the SC wouldn't make the evidence available any sooner bigtree Nov 2024 #97

Don't agree on principle but its not my assertion a SC would have made evidence available any sooner. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #98

the actual purpose of the SC was because Trump had declared bigtree Nov 2024 #99

Trump was not the only SC target, I don't know what you're position is here. Garland could've called for SC on day ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #100

the reason for that is unclear bigtree Nov 2024 #105

There was enough empirical evidence against Benedict Donald to start special counsel on day one. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #88

You don't understand the definition of the role of a special counsel Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #91

You could've just said "... I agree..." and left it at that. The rest of your words don't address my assertion. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #92

that was pretty clear bigtree Nov 2024 #107

Your first sentence would've been 100% improvement and a good justification for SC on day 1... We agree uponit7771 Nov 2024 #125

But I don't agree Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #113

We're close enough uponit7771 Nov 2024 #126

Interesting. MotownPgh Nov 2024 #129

Most were unionized employees who couldn't be fired at will Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #133

This checks out. MotownPgh Nov 2024 #158

Biden and Garland's meritless, delusional faith in institutions they were part of RockRaven Nov 2024 #18

Just be patient and moniss Nov 2024 #19

it sure did work out great barbtries Nov 2024 #21

Imagine nowforever Nov 2024 #25

His best friend owns the clown court. He can't investigate his bestie. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #26

But Marcy Emptywheel says there are secret and magical things happening!!1! Patience, Grasshopper!!1! Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #27

I told you she was.trcksy, I told you she was false. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #33

where you pretend you read emptywheel bigtree Nov 2024 #63

Yup, for trump not to good for the country, but, the case is not to political, thankfully. republianmushroom Nov 2024 #30

This is disgraceful. lees1975 Nov 2024 #32

I think you're wrong on at least one point - Manchin and others wouldn't have voted for changing the Supreme Court groundloop Nov 2024 #43

Exactly right. ecstatic Nov 2024 #111

He was looking for a money trail BeyondGeography Nov 2024 #34

Merrick Garland will go down in history as a spineless AG who allowed the country to go fascist. n/t PatrickforB Nov 2024 #37

Even if he isn't declared a spineless AG (but he will be), and the fact that he's prosecuted give or take 1000 other SWBTATTReg Nov 2024 #53

I'm not a lawyer. markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #40

I call them the debunkers. dchill Nov 2024 #47

I call that a smear bigtree Nov 2024 #59

Basically she blames the SC and the Jan 6 committee Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2024 #70

Most of the defense of Garland is filibuster and sophistry that doesn't address the issue that Garland *COULD* have ... uponit7771 Nov 2024 #94

you haven't show here why that would have made any difference bigtree Nov 2024 #101

That's a whole other discussion, right now I'm normalizing the FACT that Garland could've started the SC on day one. uponit7771 Nov 2024 #104

I find the timidity, and rolling over to be the worst gut punch for many of us , and for Lady Liberty. Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #44

That was never what was happening. dchill Nov 2024 #45

Worthless, gutless. dalton99a Nov 2024 #46

Have you read Sarah Kendzior? coffeenap Nov 2024 #48

in the article where she trolls Democrats and Pres. Biden bigtree Nov 2024 #58

Yeah, Sarah used to be good, but she's lost the plot Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #120

She is a clickbait CT kook and should be ignored by any serious person. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #116

Centrist bullshit. Emile Nov 2024 #49

there's no evidence he 'slowly' built a case bigtree Nov 2024 #56

Wheeler has zero fucking credibility. Zero. She hasn't called a damn thing correctly in years. thebigidea Nov 2024 #62

this is like the rest of the criticisms bigtree Nov 2024 #64

Have a modicum of self-awareness then. thebigidea Nov 2024 #68

it's obvious that 'you gained zero insight on anything that happened' bigtree Nov 2024 #71

One thing I'll say for Bmaz Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2024 #77

. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #84

no one said anything of the sort bigtree Nov 2024 #86

Um, no. I have no interest in reading yet another wall o' words. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #93

but your words are superior? bigtree Nov 2024 #95

* sigh* Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #96

I'm sorry bigtree Nov 2024 #106

Didn't work..... claudette Nov 2024 #57

It worked out fantastic. Autumn Nov 2024 #66

If you're looking for blame, Hassler Nov 2024 #67

No edhopper Nov 2024 #72

You sent to be ignoring Loose Cannon Hassler Nov 2024 #76

Have a rotten Thanksgiving, Garland Blue Owl Nov 2024 #85

yeah, thanks a lot for bringing TWO multi-felony indictments bigtree Nov 2024 #87

He was building a very limited case by only targeting the pawns in the Trump criminal operation. jalan48 Nov 2024 #103

I suspect we are living in a time that history will remember as the worst in our country's history. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #122

Not blaming Biden, but his AG and other Dems did not help enough kansasobama Nov 2024 #128

Did we learn a lesson from this? Bluetus Nov 2024 #130

And many of us here were chastised for speaking up early on. hamsterjill Nov 2024 #147

I can't count how many times I was lectured to have patience. Emile Nov 2024 #148

And if you read through this thread edhopper Nov 2024 #149

Apparently they're also on his side FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #152

He had majority support on here iemanja Nov 2024 #153

Yep. I remember that. And his apologists are still waving their swords Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #159

He's still looking for an eraser DaBronx Nov 2024 #156