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andym

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65. If she put forth at least one big vision economic idea, she might have won
Wed Nov 27, 2024, 01:46 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Wed Nov 27, 2024, 04:01 PM - Edit history (1)

She needed to differentiate herself from Joe who was getting blamed for the higher costs of living reflected in his sub 40% favorability. Taking on the mantle of reformer is one way to do it. Barack Obama had Hope and Change along with big plans for health care and rescuing the economy. Kamala needed something big that didn't just sound like a continuation of Joe-- this is for marketing herself to voters as much as anything, given the economy was good and inflation was tamed. But historically higher costs of living reflect poorly on the party in power.

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She did the best she could with the short time she was given Groundhawg Nov 2024 #1
Best postmortem yet: the question is not why did she lose, but how did she come so close Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #2
I thought so. Because she's a woman. I thought too many who voted for Joe wouldn't vote for a woman. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #3
Same here. LisaL Nov 2024 #4
I fully supported her once the President endorsed her MustLoveBeagles Nov 2024 #12
She didn't poll better than Biden in MOST polls at that time, but I did see at least one Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #14
...and Thus, We Discover Another Big Reason Bypassing Harris Was a BAD Idea. The_Counsel Nov 2024 #89
White Americans have been taught for 40 years that the Republican is the only choice. yardwork Nov 2024 #91
She polled significantly better than Biden Polybius Nov 2024 #111
I agree, I will believe that America is ready to elect a woman president when it happens not before Walleye Nov 2024 #52
LOL. I was just like the trumpers in 2020 who couldn't believe all the enthusiasm they saw at his rallies CrispyQ Nov 2024 #84
Well, it was always going to be a close election. LisaL Nov 2024 #5
I felt the same way when she announced Marigold Nov 2024 #10
Yup. America wasn't ever going to elect a black woman Arazi Nov 2024 #20
I voted for Kamala Harris as well, obviously. LisaL Nov 2024 #25
Their hands were tied Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #37
What Were the Dems Trying to Accomplish? The_Counsel Nov 2024 #99
I thought the same too DeepWinter Nov 2024 #51
the mood of the country simply didn't support any kind of status quo stopdiggin Nov 2024 #6
I thought Kamala and Tim were Great MacKasey Nov 2024 #7
they were great... I think they just didn't have enough time to get people to know her LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #15
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #86
On the other hand, everyone knows who Trump is. How hard is it to decide which candidate to vote for? Fish700 Nov 2024 #94
Right -- but Repubs have been exposed to endless propaganda how bad Dems are LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #118
Doomed by Merrick Garland in 2021. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #8
how could we argue that trump is a fascist wannabe and criminal when he's running around ecstatic Nov 2024 #23
The main thing I criticize Biden for is appointing Garland AG Janbdwl72 Nov 2024 #34
no other AG has dared to prosecute a president, former or otherwise bigtree Nov 2024 #58
There's always a first time for everything. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #63
it's not as if the case they were prosecuting was about violations of not just laws bigtree Nov 2024 #69
Yep, it shows his base that the "Deep State" was persecuting him. The bigleyest innocent man. Fish700 Nov 2024 #93
you mean voters needed for an already convicted felon/adjudicated rapist, convicted tax fraud bigtree Nov 2024 #57
If he was guilty he would be in jail. "Fake news" cries his base! Fish700 Nov 2024 #95
No. If it wasn't Trump, it would have been an even bigger loss. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #77
Is he in jail? Fish700 Nov 2024 #96
What's your argument? Self Esteem Nov 2024 #106
Trump supporters think the convictions are fake news. Real Convicts are in jail. Fish700 Nov 2024 #119
That's putting a bit much on Biden. usonian Nov 2024 #9
I think he may not even get credit. Ursus Rex Nov 2024 #53
America has bigotry and misogyny in its DNA LuvLoogie Nov 2024 #11
I listened to the podcast where they went over this-- very informative LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #13
pisses me off that Joe Rogan wasn't more flexible to meet with her LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #16
Her people said Rogan needed to fly to her womanofthehills Nov 2024 #71
Her campaign people told a different story about when he was willing to meet LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #79
I believe it was successful voter suppression, something not mentioned in any post election commentary. nt ShazamIam Nov 2024 #17
So 7 million Biden voters TheProle Nov 2024 #73
How many times during the 2nd half of 2024 did you read about a state that removed thousands of voters from their ShazamIam Nov 2024 #75
She was awesome! Humans need a reboot. Joinfortmill Nov 2024 #18
She overperformed if you go by Approval Ratings cjoki4 Nov 2024 #19
We don't know that Biden would've lost by a larger margin and will never no standingtall Nov 2024 #22
We have a good reason to understand what would happen. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #78
I want to know what was said to finally get him to drop out, and who said it Polybius Nov 2024 #112
It wasn't one thing is my guess. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #114
It's hard to say, because it was so abrupt Polybius Nov 2024 #116
Our political system has been corrupted. *rump embraced/embraces that dynamic even comparing himself to Al Capone Uncle Joe Nov 2024 #21
She ran of very good campaign but standingtall Nov 2024 #24
Fuck that shit... Her less-than-perfect campaign Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #38
No Dem voters didn't stab her in the back standingtall Nov 2024 #43
Them, too... Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #67
Sounds like somebody paid way too much attention to the NY Times. Paladin Nov 2024 #47
I disagree Retrograde Nov 2024 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Nov 2024 #59
Comments in the Huffington post article are rough n/t MichMan Nov 2024 #27
I just didn't see the value in parading out a bunch of multimillionaire doc03 Nov 2024 #28
She steamrolled Drumpf in the debate True Dough Nov 2024 #29
How does a highly educated successful Black woman appeal to NoMoreRepugs Nov 2024 #30
From now on, Dems need to dumb everything down Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #41
Joe Rogan is a right wing shill standingtall Nov 2024 #44
The phrase implies a population's erosion or ignorance of civic duty as a priority. taxi Nov 2024 #45
That's the feeling I have too. gemini_liberal Nov 2024 #31
Also, dirty tricks and vote suppression NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #32
"the mood of the country simply didn't support any kind of status quo" J_William_Ryan Nov 2024 #33
That makes absolutely zero sense Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #36
Right Cosmocat Nov 2024 #39
Like I said, all the support and enthusiasm Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #35
I pushed back on DT fading at the time Cosmocat Nov 2024 #40
If Dems showed up in numbers Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #42
Harris actually got more total votes than Obama. LisaL Nov 2024 #46
True She got more votes then Obama but that's misleading standingtall Nov 2024 #48
In 2020 nitpicked Nov 2024 #54
I said this the last few months: turnout was not going to equal 2020. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #82
In 2024 people knew what a disaster a Trump presidency was - unlike 2020 Fish700 Nov 2024 #100
That's a bit misleading as well FBaggins Nov 2024 #85
Still lower than 2020 Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #66
The US has added over 32 million people since 2012. Of course Harris was going to have more total votes than Obama. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #81
Yep Cosmocat Nov 2024 #50
Trump wasn't fading. He had some of his biggest crowds in the final 90 days of the campaign. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #80
So all those venues I saw with Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #88
You saw what you wanted to see. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #104
No brah, I saw what actually happened... Blue_Tires Nov 2024 #109
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She was beyond better than ANYONE who ever ran for office in this country IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. John Shaft Nov 2024 #49
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #55
The media's complicity in getting Trump re-elected can't be underestimated dlk Nov 2024 #56
I blame Biden's advisors dalton99a Nov 2024 #60
Still tone deaf on pocketbook, or at least silent, on pocketbook economics Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #61
She addressed pocket book issues a lot in her speeches. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #62
She started to toward the end, but by the time she recognized that simply telling people not to believe Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #72
We had a billion dollars to manipulate social media In our favor JCMach1 Nov 2024 #64
If she put forth at least one big vision economic idea, she might have won andym Nov 2024 #65
Harris and Walz ran a great campaign. gulliver Nov 2024 #68
She did what she could in a short amount of time Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #70
Whoever worked on this campaign should never be allowed near another one. Passages Nov 2024 #74
There's interesting. yardwork Nov 2024 #90
Quite possibly, but he also had a crypto creep who spent $40 million against him. Passages Nov 2024 #92
Maybe next time he will run a different campaign. Passages Nov 2024 #98
I don't think people understand how bleak the odds were looking prior to Harris coming into the race. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #76
Bullshit Blue Owl Nov 2024 #83
K & R Emile Nov 2024 #97
Trump panders to his base. Ours is ignored Bobstandard Nov 2024 #87
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #101
Yep but look at the guy she was running against. Fish700 Nov 2024 #102
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #103
What's the sky like on your planet? Fish700 Nov 2024 #105
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #107
oh, well then WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #108
Great. In what was called one of the most important elections in our nation's history, we ran a doomed campaign. jalan48 Nov 2024 #110
As much as I love Biden, the fact is that he had a 41% approval rating Polybius Nov 2024 #115
See that's where they went wrong. ucrdem Nov 2024 #117
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