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Johonny

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30. People might have ended up seeing them as sell outs
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 12:40 PM
Dec 2012

The thing about dieing youngish is you are forever frozen in time in peoples mind. You are never going to be able to voice an opinion on future events or change your mind or just get old and look like you are behind the times etc...

This is why generation after generation find people like Jim Morrison, Edgar Allen Poe or Jimi Hendrix appealing while they can be turned off by Bob Dylan, The Who or the Rolling Stones. (see a lot of comments from the other night) Jim Morrison is never going to find God, make a Gospel Album..etc If you die before you get old, you are a lot safer to admire because as a fan you know they are never going to disappoint you.

A lot of people see the older Jessie Jackson as a carpet bagging self promoter who finds trouble to make a personal appearance, could MLK have ended the same way?

A lot of people see Clinton and Obama as mild conservatives that did little to push back on the conservative agenda and in the end enabled the current American Would JFK or RFK with Vietnam and height of the cold war end up the same way? Think what happen to Johnson.

We won't know for sure because they died. There is something about dieing young around your peak in popularity that helps us remember people as great compared to people that tend to fade away. Had JFK or MLK lived they might not of helped in healing because we might not see them the same way. The same way people remember Jim Morrison forever as the young rebel rocker and see Pete Townshend as a sell out.

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I surmise that you are between the ages of 50 and 60 years. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #1
42. Male. Californian. Taverner Dec 2012 #4
that was what i was telling folks in 08 oldhippydude Dec 2012 #27
I'm a little confused here Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #9
actually the voting age at that time was 21 oldhippydude Dec 2012 #29
But if you go back and read the post I was replying to, Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #47
Wow. The deaths of those men dramatically changed the course of history. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #2
Especially now that we know now that JFK was opposed to Vietnam... Taverner Dec 2012 #3
That alone could have changed the course of human history. Intense. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #5
The Vietnam war would have never happened .. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #32
Your post made me cry for your uncle, your mother and for you. I do want to point out, though, coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #37
hmm.never thought about that. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #39
It's pretty clear JFK was going to pull out. He signed NSAM 263, ordering complete withdrawal. Octafish Dec 2012 #44
Yep. JFK repeatedly told Kenny O'Donnell, hifiguy Dec 2012 #46
NSAM 263, as I understand it, was conditioned upon success by the puppets coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #48
Your post made me tear up.... Taverner Dec 2012 #43
I have wondered this too ... DakotaLady Dec 2012 #16
There was a reason all three of them were deliberately killed. villager Dec 2012 #6
.... Taverner Dec 2012 #8
This. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #31
If JFK, RFK, and MLK had lived and had been able to follow through with their visions Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #7
Or it would have created a backlash that gave us Reagan in 68 Taverner Dec 2012 #11
I don't know about that Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #24
RFK wanted Single Payer, Universal Health Care Taverner Dec 2012 #45
My dad did a TOD in Vietnam under JFK LeftInTX Dec 2012 #10
weird timing The Straight Story Dec 2012 #12
I never knew. Overseas Dec 2012 #14
Nifty. Thanks. n/t Laelth Dec 2012 #28
I love that song SummerSnow Dec 2012 #33
K&R. Overseas Dec 2012 #13
I don't think we would have had Reagan or W LeftInTX Dec 2012 #15
I agree completely they would have changed history add one more name Jerry Litton from Missouri. gordianot Dec 2012 #17
Thanks for the suggestion - I will look him up Taverner Dec 2012 #21
I remember Jerry Litton Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #23
Good question davidpdx Dec 2012 #18
Reagan was shot LeftInTX Dec 2012 #19
No. Knowing what we know now, no. Taverner Dec 2012 #20
Well the other three were killed in the 60s weren't they? davidpdx Dec 2012 #22
MLK (advocate of non-violent change and economic justice) and RFK (advocate of peace and Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #26
no datasuspect Dec 2012 #25
People might have ended up seeing them as sell outs Johonny Dec 2012 #30
You make a good point, but I'm going to play devil's advocate. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #34
If you listen to Townshend Johonny Dec 2012 #41
Excellent points. I do think, though, had MLK coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #38
I posted this a while ago regarding this very subject (at least as far as the Kennedys go) . . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #35
This wasn't done by some cabal...this was done by corporate America in plain view Taverner Dec 2012 #42
If Hitler had been admitted to art school, there might never have coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #36
Great question. I think we can get a pretty clear idea allrevvedup Dec 2012 #40
John F. Kennedy @ American University MinM Dec 2012 #49
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