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In reply to the discussion: So many down-ballot candidates outperforming Harris shows ... the fix was in [View all]onenote
(46,188 posts)50. In Wisconsin, it was slightly less than 1 percent.
There were around 32,000 more votes cast in the Presidential race than in the Senate race in Wisconsin. That "undervote" count is keeping in line with what is fairly typical - a difference of between around 1 percent and 2 percent. For example, in both Michigan, a swing state, and Virginia, a non-swing state, the difference in the number of votes in the Presidential race and the Senate contest was around 1.5%. FWIW, in 2020, in both Michigan and Virginia, the difference between the votes cast in the presidential race and the senate race was 1.2 percent. In Arizona, the difference between the presidential vote count and the senate vote count also was around 1.2% in both 2024 and 2020.
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So many down-ballot candidates outperforming Harris shows ... the fix was in [View all]
Charging Triceratops
Nov 2024
OP
The thing we know for certain is, no people counted the votes, machines did
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#53
You are well aware the spoon guy is a proven liar. Why continue to spread his disinformation?
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#96
His bullet ballot "hypothesis" is a proven lie. It is mathematically impossible.
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#99
It wasn't a mistake, he is a con-artist. It's a shame people are that gullible.
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#102
Except that many other experts in cybersecurity agree enough to write to Harris.
Loupe Garoue
Nov 2024
#104
Given that spoon guy has already lied and made nakedly false claims, I think it is fair to question his motives.
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#131
Explain how manipulating paper ballots would be difficult if no one is allowed to actually count them
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#126
You and I will never agree, I believe in publicly countering at least the top two races
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#141
a whole lot of low post count accounts seem pretty intent on stirring up arguments over this nonsense.
Takket
Nov 2024
#23
I think you're on to something. I still don't believe trump won all the swing states.
brush
Nov 2024
#4
Do you think the governor is overseeing the voting machines or the reporting page?
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#54
I still can't figure out how some people in Wisconsin voted for Tammy Baldwin and Donald Trump.
milestogo
Nov 2024
#42
What evidence do you have that "tens of thousands" of Wisconsin voters voted for Baldwin and Trump?
onenote
Nov 2024
#49
I worked the polls. I know Dems, Repukes, Libertarians and Independents
Charging Triceratops
Nov 2024
#76
Yes, voting for Balwin and Harris seems far more likely than Baldwin and trump, that does not compute to me.
brush
Nov 2024
#83
In 2 elections, you have 4 candidates. You're ignoring that Baldwin beat a nobody
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2024
#168
Totally agree. He told us over and over how he was going to do it...because he said that's what the democrats did to him
BComplex
Nov 2024
#6
Surely, you have an example of a previous hand count in an entire state that flipped 30,000 votes then.
MichMan
Nov 2024
#140
The sc stopped the count in Florida but when the ballots were looked at
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#142
Time's a wastin' with the deadline for certification coming up in a few weeks.
MichMan
Nov 2024
#156
The government just recently announced china has hacked into the nsa network
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#56
I've wondered if Harris being a black woman might've led lots of inattentive voters to the conclusion...
Beartracks
Nov 2024
#16
Yikes! Is that the new conspiracy theory now? That Harris does not endorse these ridiculous fantasies only because
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#124
Verifying first-counts of extremely important and complex election results is not a waste of anything.
Think. Again.
Nov 2024
#105
Then why has Harris not pursued this path? Why is Harris not seeking such recounts?
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#107
Nope. I don't have to ask her once or even twice to know that she has no interest in these goofy conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#109
That's quite an assumption to make about what a sitting VP and Presidential candidate is thinking about.
Think. Again.
Nov 2024
#112
lol, you're right, maybe she is just waiting for the right moment to pounce and embrace all the goofiness?
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#120
Frankly, when I think of the 2 conniving jamokes involed here - I can't think of anything BUT skulduggery!
Peregrine Took
Nov 2024
#128
By federal law ballots and all election related materials must be kept for 22 months
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#57
But let's move on, that was in the past, no need to revisit, it's over forget about it.....
Clouds Passing
Nov 2024
#70
Yes, if we were 100% sure the first-count outcome was correct, but without double-checking, that's impossible.
Think. Again.
Nov 2024
#45
Well, if the election was slightly stolen, then we don't have to wait for the ...
planetc
Nov 2024
#13
The shameful sexist racist ppl in this country brought us this...it really is that simple!
PortTack
Nov 2024
#15
While I'm not certain that there wasn't some skullduggery Racism AND Sexism most likely played the bigger parts
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#33
According to the Harris campaign website, donations under $41,300 are all allocated to the DNC, not towards a recount.
MichMan
Nov 2024
#61
The voting and counting machines used in many states were made by the company ES&S
spike jones
Nov 2024
#18
Down ballot candidates had a more intimate and frequently longer connection to voters than Kamala.
dutch777
Nov 2024
#37
I don't blame Kamala. Given a waaaayyy late start she kept it positive and acquitted herself well. Hind sight....
dutch777
Dec 2024
#163
Alrighty then...... But thanks for the Felon47 hashtag - I'll be using that
GoneOffShore
Nov 2024
#52
Using the same logic, couldn't someone make the claim that it was actually the down ballot candidates that cheated? n/t
MichMan
Nov 2024
#62
Don't start bringing logic into it. It will just confuse the conspiracy theorists.
Wiz Imp
Nov 2024
#64
I'm always in favor of citizens doing hand counts in an open, transparent manner
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#137
Study done at Rice University showed hand counts were correct only 58% of the time
MichMan
Nov 2024
#145
Now you are talking about the toilet paper rolls added to the dres
questionseverything
Nov 2024
#147
Why would anyone believe an academic study with scientific methodology over a wacky conspiracy theory, right ?
MichMan
Nov 2024
#148
Stats for the "So many down-ballot candidates outperforming Harris", please
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2024
#71
If the fix was in why did the exit polls largely mirror the actual results?
DemocratSinceBirth
Nov 2024
#91
Lots of Trumpers still think there was tampering in 2020, it doesn't make it true.
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#113
Except there has been no valid reasoning, it has been exclusively baseless conspiracy theories, exactly like Trumpers.
tritsofme
Nov 2024
#119
I remember him saying: "We don't need your votes. We have plenty of votes." N/t
CousinIT
Nov 2024
#139