"President Barack Obama has signed a death knell for the Bill of Rights."

[vaberella]

188. Actually it does when counting the quality of the Dems.

I was paying close, very close attention to what went on the first two years. Public Option was killed by Senators like Landrieu and Lincoln and any other Conservadem. It's like you were absent when the conservadems were holding hostage the Health care reform bill.

I was there when Dems turned their back at every alternative Obama gave in order so he could shut down Gitmo. But I guess you were absent or on vacation for that. I'm sure at one point in time dems could have done a lot. However, more often than not on the significant stuff they have not.

It was many Dems in the Clinton era that gave us DOMA and DADT. You might have thought those things were great bills. I don't think so. I don't hold any majority as effective if they don't push effective legislation since that is their duty. And sadly the Dem majority has had a good number of dems who went against.

And if you give me this BS about Obama being to twist arms this is not the era of Bugsy Siegel, since people like bringing up several other dead Presidents who weren't under the same level of scrutiny to their actions in the hill because of little media involvement due to technological limitations. Shit like that gets him a 24 hour run spot on Fox News and CNN with plenty misinformation to boot.

I didn't feel my statement needed a long indepth statement in order to be relevant since a logical thinker of the events as they played could realize there is a strict division of power that is peppered liberally by agendas and egos in Congress.