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92. Reports are that there was a .223 caliber rifle seized.

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:39 PM

Dec 2012

And that many rounds of gunshots were heard. It was most likely a rifle with a magazine.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-14/connecticut-shooting-leaves-27-dead-including-pupils-ap.html

The AP reported that the attacker in Connecticut is a 20- year-old man. A law-enforcement official in Washington said that one gun used in the attacks is a .223-caliber rifle, the news service reported. The official spoke to AP on condition of anonymity because the source was not authorized to speak on the record about the developing investigation.

http://johnston.patch.com/articles/27-dead-in-connecticut-school-shooting-aa42c099

The alleged gunman, whom reports have identified as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, a former Quinnipiac University student, was armed with four guns and a high-powered assault rifle.

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Yes, I wish a teacher or other responsible adult had been armed [View all] TPaine7 Dec 2012 OP

Do me a favor and please do not go about defending the goodness of guns today. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #1

Guns are not "good", so I will not defend their "goodness." But I do agree with President Obama. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #14

I am surprised you didn't suggest DURHAM D Dec 2012 #2

Another fantasy projection. Remmah2 Dec 2012 #80

oh put a freaking lid on it. JanMichael Dec 2012 #3

I've known more teachers I would trust with my personal Springfield than security guards... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #143

Shooters had bulletproof vests - mentally unstable shooters come prepared, apparently. blm Dec 2012 #4

But if there had been someone there who also had a semi-automatic weapon, and bullet-proof vest, and cbdo2007 Dec 2012 #24

You try teaching in a bullet-proof vest. I had enough trouble teaching in a suit vest. TrogL Dec 2012 #146

I am guessing a very large percentage WinniSkipper Dec 2012 #51

So there goes the "guns save lives" argument, as shooters will just get body armor. alp227 Dec 2012 #121

A "bulletproof vest" does not confer invincibility. PavePusher Dec 2012 #133

The fucking solution is not more guns upaloopa Dec 2012 #5

+1000 GCP Dec 2012 #8

Thanks wryter2000 Dec 2012 #18

Ah, thank you. Iggo Dec 2012 #25

Are you trying to say that a lawful person with a gun would have made things worse? n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #137

Gunners only reply to a tragedy like this is to try and upaloopa Dec 2012 #141

So, should police forces be disbanded? PavePusher Dec 2012 #147

What a load. I wish the shooter(s) had been unarmed. cbayer Dec 2012 #6

Agree. n/t Agschmid Dec 2012 #12

Ah, the gun crazies have arrived... DanTex Dec 2012 #7

Yes, with the same tired talking points. n/t godai Dec 2012 #19

DU has been infiltrated with whack jobs from the very beginning NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #101

. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2012 #9

Do good people with guns have sensors that alert them to trouble nearby??? cbdo2007 Dec 2012 #10

you want 28 dead? CreekDog Dec 2012 #11

There needs to be a balanced approach. justanidea Dec 2012 #13

The more the killings happen the less people upaloopa Dec 2012 #16

Bottom line: I don't trust you around my children if you are armed Generic Other Dec 2012 #61

Yes, yes, yes erinlough Dec 2012 #77

It would be safer if you just never left your home. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #128

While I understand your sentiment... cleanhippie Dec 2012 #125

I am hardly the ignorant one Generic Other Dec 2012 #159

I'm endangering you and your kids? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #161

This post is a remake of the that shitstain nnadir after Fukishima. Arctic Dave Dec 2012 #15

How many more children would have dies in the crossfire? NWHarkness Dec 2012 #17

A logical post on DU? Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #44

Ugh! ProSense Dec 2012 #20

I get your point but...'We don't even require that of SEALS!' makes no sense. randome Dec 2012 #21

pathetic DemocratsForProgress Dec 2012 #22

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #23

Who asked for you sympathy? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #32

No. But eventually, someone might do just that. MineralMan Dec 2012 #42

Actually, mob mentality most likely IS dictating where and when you post. blue neen Dec 2012 #120

Today is not the day to have to read this kind of nonsense. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #26

Is this the right time to post such drivel? Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #27

did this school have a resource officer? Corgigal Dec 2012 #28

probably not a lot of sympathy for your warped views today . . . . DrDan Dec 2012 #29

Yes, more guns is what we need. Puke. nt sufrommich Dec 2012 #30

Please. liberalmuse Dec 2012 #31

Utterly predictable, and utterly reprehensible. MineralMan Dec 2012 #33

Agreed. It's reprehensible RomneyLies Dec 2012 #37

+1,000. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #109

WELL REGULATED RomneyLies Dec 2012 #34

Have you left no sense of decency? alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #35

This. nt sufrommich Dec 2012 #43

The sad thing is you have no clue that is a disgusting, inapporpriate joeybee12 Dec 2012 #36

No. I am perfectly happy with a no gun policy in schools. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2012 #38

A jury let this post stand 3-3 ellisonz Dec 2012 #39

Yes. Very sad commentary. MineralMan Dec 2012 #45

yes - probably better - let all DUers see this disgusting post DrDan Dec 2012 #48

I still won't put anyone on Ignore but TPaine7 is definitely on my internal 'Who Gives A Shit' list. randome Dec 2012 #54

not a fan of "ignore" either - have never used it DrDan Dec 2012 #64

Yes, let them out themselves cbdo2007 Dec 2012 #57

I say let it stand. DanTex Dec 2012 #86

Sometimes it really just is too fucking much... ellisonz Dec 2012 #89

Fail. Hell Hath No Fury Dec 2012 #40

A parent with a pistol would have been no match against this guy with his pnwmom Dec 2012 #41

Assault weapon? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #59

This is what gave me that impression: pnwmom Dec 2012 #67

Reports are that there was a .223 caliber rifle seized. pnwmom Dec 2012 #92

Just watched a video interview with a surviving student. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #107

The "Sig Sauer" has been called the "Rolls Royce of assault rifles." pnwmom Dec 2012 #117

A Sig Sauer 9mm handgun is most definitely not the "Rolls Royce of assault rifles." TPaine7 Dec 2012 #144

A teacher is a teacher. Not trained to protect DevonRex Dec 2012 #46

Sick--sorry, dude, we're not all primed for combat like you TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #47

Well using your "logic", if no one was armed, then no one would have got shot. SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #49

That's complete horseshit. Not ONCE has that ever happened, despite C/C in 49 states kysrsoze Dec 2012 #50

Is it possible AlexSatan Dec 2012 #132

Yeah, I'd like a gun to be in my child's classroom aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2012 #52

utter self-serving bullshit.... mike_c Dec 2012 #53

Or maybe we should just come to the fucking realization Cheap_Trick Dec 2012 #55

Cheering for more guns while the blood hasn't even dried... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #56

Kindergarten teachers = Navy SEALs, both groups should TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #58

Now we have to be friggin Annie Oakley too? HockeyMom Dec 2012 #60

I never alert on posts, but I am curious to see if calling me INSANE would be considered out TPaine7 Dec 2012 #65

This is a bad time to post this type of thread former-republican Dec 2012 #71

Actually, this is the only time this type of thread is allowed in GD, and the adults running into TPaine7 Dec 2012 #72

I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you former-republican Dec 2012 #79

Teacher with a hand gun AGAINST THIS? FOOK OFF Rambis Dec 2012 #62

Using this disaster to advance your fucked up agenda BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #63

+10,000 Laurian Dec 2012 #87

+1 tallahasseedem Dec 2012 #96

Because the other side of the argument would never do that. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #103

Since we cannot predict which unstable male will open fire, ban men from owning guns. aquart Dec 2012 #65

fucking gross H2O Man Dec 2012 #68

More violence. Our country is beyond a joke at the point. anneboleyn Dec 2012 #74

Ugh NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #69

Shut up October Dec 2012 #70

Good thing it just wasn't anyone you know or love who got murdered. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #73

I'm glad that, if my assumption is correct, no one you love got murdered either. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #75

I've already had three family members murdered at once, gunned down in cold blood. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #83

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you find a measure of peace, and I hope that my OP TPaine7 Dec 2012 #90

Just three more human souls sacrificied upon the altar of The Sacred Second Amendment. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #129

For all you wannabe Barney Fifes that want to walk around packing heat... LTR Dec 2012 #76

Maybe if EVERYONE were armed EVERYONE would be dead. Wheee!!!! Taverner Dec 2012 #78

If the shooter hadn't been able to get a gun ... tledford Dec 2012 #81

You disgust me. MANative Dec 2012 #82

Are the teachers supposed to be armed security guards? gollygee Dec 2012 #84

I am a teacher and I do NOT want armed teachers my building adigal Dec 2012 #85

Absolutely agree HockeyMom Dec 2012 #114

Interestingly enough.... opiate69 Dec 2012 #88

Could there be a program similar to the FFDO's on aircraft in schools? cpamomfromtexas Dec 2012 #91

There was a guy with a gun in the crowd when Gabby Giffords was shot. LancetChick Dec 2012 #93

Great example of why the OP's idea is not a good one. Thank you. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #100

IIRC, he was in a nearby store and had to run to the scene. Also, he never drew his weapon, TPaine7 Dec 2012 #104

May your God one day soften your cold back heart DainBramaged Dec 2012 #94

And not my front heart, too? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #102

Fuck you, simply fuck you. DainBramaged Dec 2012 #124

I agree. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #95

What a dumb fucking post...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #97

+1,000. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #110

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #115

You (and people like you) make me sick. Moostache Dec 2012 #98

The schmuck will never get it. GoneOffShore Dec 2012 #126

Well Stated n/t WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #130

Yes, then could be even MORE dead people when someone shoots the wrong person. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #99

Because nobody ever got killed in crossfire... GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #105

The petulant implication that twenty-seven dead school children are a price we pay for the 2nd Amend LanternWaste Dec 2012 #106

GO. AWAY. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #108

You're Blaming The Victims Of This Atrocity. Shame On You. (nt) Paladin Dec 2012 #111

So you think having a gun fight in a classroom filled with children is the answer? cynatnite Dec 2012 #112

Holy shit. You're serious. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #113

Sure let's just arm up our teachers LynneSin Dec 2012 #116

I work in schools and that would never work to arm teachers because The Midway Rebel Dec 2012 #118

this video shows a good example of that.... diphthong Dec 2012 #119

That's three gun-worshippers today Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #122

You sicken me. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #123

And to keep peddling those pro-NRA talking points on THIS day, of days: your post is SPOT. ON. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #134

Starting to get the hint that you're peddling your NRA bullshit on the wrong website? Electric Monk Dec 2012 #127

Yeah, Obama and I attend the same NRA meetings. n/t TPaine7 Dec 2012 #131

"Now I am merely curious just how long I can string you along" <- Another Gungeoneer just told me apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #135

Guns do not "do good". Guns are inanimate objects incapable of such things Fearless Dec 2012 #136

Context. "In the hands of good people" was understood. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #140

Guns do not do good in the hands of good people. Fearless Dec 2012 #145

We are now forced to practically strip to get on an airplane. Time for guard shacks at the entrance libdem4life Dec 2012 #138

What a pathetic jury that did not hide this shit....You should be embarrassed Rowdyboy Dec 2012 #139

+1 n/t FSogol Dec 2012 #150

By this "reasoning," if EVERYONE were armed 24/7, no one would ever get shot... VOX Dec 2012 #142

arming teachers, a notion so insane on so many levels... KG Dec 2012 #148

I could just scream when I read posts like this. nolabear Dec 2012 #149

The OP was not about deterence. At all. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #153

"Oh but what about all the good things Hitler did?" Taverner Dec 2012 #151

Another sickening, delusional post. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #152

What the world needs now is guns sweet guns... donheld Dec 2012 #154

Guns are the problem ... not the solution! n/t etherealtruth Dec 2012 #155

I think that is absolutely the wrong way to respond to this Marrah_G Dec 2012 #156

It's disturbing that such a disgusting post is on the "greatest" page. I wish I could unrec this myrna minx Dec 2012 #157

You can simply put me on ignore or hide this OP. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #158

faster, pussycat tiny elvis Dec 2012 #160