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Dennis Donovan

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Sat Dec 7, 2024, 05:56 PM Dec 2024

New Yorker: A Man Was Murdered in Cold Blood and You're Laughing? [View all]

New Yorker - A Man Was Murdered in Cold Blood and You’re Laughing?

What the death of a health-insurance C.E.O. means to America.

By Jia Tolentino
December 7, 2024



As you know, the C.E.O. of UnitedHealthcare, fifty-year-old Brian Thompson, was murdered on the street in midtown Manhattan, on Wednesday morning, twenty minutes before sunrise. He was in town for an investors’ convention, and had worked for UnitedHealthcare for more than two decades—a company that is part of UnitedHealth Group, a health-insurance conglomerate valued at five hundred and sixty billion dollars. UnitedHealthcare had two hundred and eighty-one billion dollars in revenue in 2023, and Thompson, who became C.E.O. in 2021, had raised annual profits from twelve billion dollars to sixteen billion dollars during his tenure. He received more than ten million dollars in compensation last year. Andrew Witty, the C.E.O. of UnitedHealth Group, remembered Thompson in a video message to employees as a “truly extraordinary person who touched the lives of countless people throughout our organization and far beyond.” Thompson lived in a suburb of Minneapolis, where UnitedHealthcare is based, and he is survived by his wife and two sons.

The particulars of this murder are strange and remarkable: it occurred in public; the suspected shooter went to Starbucks beforehand; he got away from the scene via bicycle; he has not yet been found. But the public reaction has been even wilder, even more lawless. The jokes came streaming in on every social-media platform, in the comments underneath every news article. “I’m sorry, prior authorization is required for thoughts and prayers,” someone commented on TikTok, a response that got more than fifteen thousand likes. “Does he have a history of shootings? Denied coverage,” another person wrote, under an Instagram post from CNN. On X, someone posted, with the caption “My official response to the UHC CEO’s murder,” an infographic comparing wealth distribution in late eighteenth-century France to wealth distribution in present-day America. The whiff of populist anarchy in the air is salty, unprecedented, and notably across the aisle. New York Post comment sections are full of critiques of capitalism as well as self-enriching executives and politicians (like “Biden and his crime family”). On LinkedIn, where users post with their real names and employment histories, UnitedHealth Group had to turn off comments on its post about Thompson’s death—thousands of people were liking and hearting it, with a few even giving it the “clapping” reaction. The company also turned off comments on Facebook, where, as of midday Thursday, a post about Thompson had received more than thirty-six thousand “laugh” reactions.

What on earth, some people must be asking, is happening to our country? Are we really so divided, so used to dehumanizing one another, that people are out here openly celebrating the cold-blooded murder of a hardworking family man? That people are making jokes about how the assassin could’ve won the Timothée Chalamet look-alike contest in Washington Square Park? That when a journalist at the American Prospect called an eighty-eight-year-old woman who was aggravated by her poor Medicare Advantage coverage for comment, she wisecracked that she wasn’t the killer—she can’t even ride a bike?

There had been prior threats against Thompson, his wife told NBC News, motivated, she said, by, “I don’t know, a lack of coverage? . . . I just know that he said there were some people that had been threatening him.” There had been protests at the UnitedHealthcare headquarters, in Minnesota, in April and July; during the latter, eleven people were arrested. The group responsible for the protests, People’s Action, also confronted Witty, the UnitedHealth Group C.E.O., at a Senate hearing in May. In a statement, People’s Action leaders referenced endless hours on the phone trying to get medical care covered, and denials of coverage for lifesaving medication and surgery. A recent statement from the group, in response to Thompson’s death, read, “We know there is a crisis of gun violence in America. There is also a crisis of denials of care by private health insurance corporations including UnitedHealth.” They urged political leaders to “act on both.” UnitedHealthcare has the highest claim-denial rate of any private insurance company: at thirty-two per cent, it is double the industry average. And, though the shooter’s motive remains unknown, shell casings found on the scene had the words “deny,” “delay,” and possibly “depose” written on them, echoing the title of a 2010 book by Jay M. Feinman, “Delay, Deny, Defend: Why Insurance Companies Don’t Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It,” which by Thursday had leapt up one of Amazon’s best-seller charts.

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Yep, UHC denies 1/3 of medical claims. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #1
No they don't and I'll bet money you can't provide a citation for that. I get you are are trying to justify shooting Silent Type Dec 2024 #4
From the OP article above... Think. Again. Dec 2024 #7
You accept every thing you read. That's initial denials AND requests for additional info. Silent Type Dec 2024 #14
I gave you a citation. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #18
If you provide a citation for ultimate denials, not initial ones quickly overturned I'll contribute $25 to your favorite Silent Type Dec 2024 #21
Man, those goal posts move FAST! Think. Again. Dec 2024 #24
You said they denied 30%, they don't. You left out the most important part about approving once lazy doctors Silent Type Dec 2024 #27
I said they denied 1/3 and the article this thread is about backs that up. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #31
Yes, but they did point out that you didn't provide it from the approved list of sources in their head ThreeNoSeep Dec 2024 #45
Just accept the fact that a corporation loyalties are to the executives and stock holders. The executives LiberalArkie Dec 2024 #63
After reading this thread, I'm starting to wonder and it damn sure isn't you..... chouchou Dec 2024 #90
Lazy doctors? yardwork Dec 2024 #70
Hmmmmm soldierant Dec 2024 #74
As the person happy feet Dec 2024 #102
UM happy feet Dec 2024 #105
In a lot of cases NJCher Dec 2024 #133
I love that you are willing to die on this hill being factually wrong and mildly abusive. ZonkerHarris Dec 2024 #155
LOL my thoughts too. Emile Dec 2024 #28
Why make... FeelingBlue Dec 2024 #48
Because they know many people Meowmee Dec 2024 #104
It's the New Yorker, typically they're a reliable source Arazi Dec 2024 #25
Does writer of article sound qualified. Her main article before was on "Britney Spears's conservatorship nightmare." Silent Type Dec 2024 #44
And who are you? Arazi Dec 2024 #57
Interesting that you don't see her qualifications the way I do. Ronan Farrow is an award-winning researcher/author... Hekate Dec 2024 #58
She sounds to be a very good writer. As is Ronan Farrow. That's for showing us how qualified Autumn Dec 2024 #73
In every post that you've made choie Dec 2024 #80
Disparaging the auther is an ad hominem fallacy. AZ8theist Dec 2024 #84
Jia appears on such podcasts as Preet Bahara's NJCher Dec 2024 #134
I am not impressed by this article. delisen Dec 2024 #153
Our healthcare system is terrible Henry203 Dec 2024 #43
No joke. It's time Congress gets of their rears. They've had 60 years to enact something decent, and haven't. Silent Type Dec 2024 #77
NEVER as long as Repukes are in the majority... AZ8theist Dec 2024 #89
I bet we couldn't get 85% of Democrats to vote for universal HC without private insurers involved. ACA Silent Type Dec 2024 #119
Yikes, where are you coming from with this attitude defending the undefensible? roscoeroscoe Dec 2024 #130
That last sentence boggles my mind NJCher Dec 2024 #137
Mrs. Thompson... is this you? intheflow Dec 2024 #131
That attack on another DUer is unjustified and really wrong. That data was posted earlier. hlthe2b Dec 2024 #9
Because it's the truth-- Silent Type Dec 2024 #17
Nol It is not. Multiple sources report the highest denials rate and further that they were using AI hlthe2b Dec 2024 #29
Not one of those says 30% ultimate denial rate. Silent Type Dec 2024 #38
That you keep changing to new strawman arguments is not working. It only shows you for hlthe2b Dec 2024 #41
Why are you splitting hairs on denials? intheflow Dec 2024 #132
Excellent gathering of sources Hekate Dec 2024 #64
Thank you. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #66
UHC lonely bird Dec 2024 #93
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 ShazzieB Dec 2024 #99
Im glad it's happening. xmas74 Dec 2024 #111
I know what you mean! ShazzieB Dec 2024 #114
An article I read on DU yesterday Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #10
Initial denials, final denials are like 9% and most are resolved quickly. Doctors do bill Botox for headaches when Silent Type Dec 2024 #19
I hope our case ends up as one of those in the 23%. Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #23
Citation? SamuelTheThird Dec 2024 #37
Here you go. Silent Type Dec 2024 #42
That doesn't say UnitedHealthCare has a 9% denial rate SamuelTheThird Dec 2024 #46
Odd you use overall numbers dpibel Dec 2024 #47
There's also slipperiness in attributing initial denials to minor errors and "lazy doctors" Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #53
Even 9-10% denials seems horrific Arazi Dec 2024 #61
That's fantastic! OilemFirchen Dec 2024 #72
I work for insurance claims. I know how hard it is to push a totally valid claim thru with all the info LizBeth Dec 2024 #145
That was with the implications of algorithms. Then lets talk about implementing LizBeth Dec 2024 #146
And you keep equating talking about a shooting to Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #15
Yeah, in this context it is. Silent Type Dec 2024 #20
When multiple corporations practice legalized murder for profit, I guess you could say that Hekate Dec 2024 #71
In your opinion. ShazzieB Dec 2024 #100
See? Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #159
I think Forbes says an "estimated one-third denial rate Stargleamer Dec 2024 #36
That was rude. Justify shooting someone in the back? zuul Dec 2024 #56
No it's not 1/3, it's only 32% SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #62
where are your citations/references that prove they don't deny claims at that rate? Genevra Dec 2024 #65
Hey! Are you with the parasitic insurance industry? Just curious. paleotn Dec 2024 #94
Would you please provide the source citing what percent they deny? nt Phoenix61 Dec 2024 #117
War is hell. The Grand Illuminist Dec 2024 #120
You are wrong. Blue Full Moon Dec 2024 #157
Here is a link. If you want more, do your own research. 33taw Dec 2024 #161
It's bad enough when trumpsters were the goons, it's another when Democrats join in. Silent Type Dec 2024 #2
Anyone not totally broken up a psychopathic ceo dies is a goon. SamuelTheThird Dec 2024 #49
Probably not, but they darn sure aren't what I expect from fellow Democrats. YMMV Silent Type Dec 2024 #50
I bet you would have said.... paleotn Dec 2024 #97
I don't visit some of the internet areas that supposedly are so "horrific" on the comments. That said, hlthe2b Dec 2024 #3
Just a "hard-working family man" the article says Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #8
. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #22
Just a "hard-working family man"? Must be whey he used AI to deny claims. Autumn Dec 2024 #76
Tony Soprano had more class nt xmas74 Dec 2024 #113
Just like so many other average white collar schlubs misanthrope Dec 2024 #118
Boo, fucking hoo atreides1 Dec 2024 #5
Guess the New Yorker caters to the NYC blue bloods. paleotn Dec 2024 #98
The New Yorker has done substantial reporting on Voltaire2 Dec 2024 #127
Laughing at evil people dying is generally normal. Pretending an evil man was good or deserving of sympathy, is not. ColinC Dec 2024 #6
Well said. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #11
indeed mike_c Dec 2024 #12
I freely confess that I sometimes watch videos Crunchy Frog Dec 2024 #33
Um, maybe in the movies... whathehell Dec 2024 #92
No? Saddam Hussein, Chris Dorner, Charles Manson, Hitler? ColinC Dec 2024 #101
This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Dec 2024 #124
When huge insurance companies engage in causing economic disaster and even widescale deaths for profit Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #13
Yes Timewas Dec 2024 #91
A *mass murderer* was killed in cold blood Arazi Dec 2024 #16
I'm not laughing. City Lights Dec 2024 #26
I'm not laughing but I am thinking about Karma. kerry-is-my-prez Dec 2024 #30
Where Dem4life1234 Dec 2024 #32
HARD WORKING AT GETTING RICH ... Xoan Dec 2024 #34
From what I've seen most people are laughing at the BS demands for sympathy RockRaven Dec 2024 #35
Perhaps this sadistic trend could be ended by lining up all of the chortling trolls and shooting them in the back. OilemFirchen Dec 2024 #39
My concern is reserved for the people that died or suffered/ were bankrupted etc. Meowmee Dec 2024 #40
Laughing? Gloating? Aussie105 Dec 2024 #51
Considering the messages inscribed on those bullets Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #96
I'm not laughing, but I just don't feel pity for the person killed sakabatou Dec 2024 #52
We have become desensitised to the violent death of others. Aussie105 Dec 2024 #55
So let's say someone was murdered. sakabatou Dec 2024 #68
Yes. No. Maybe. Aussie105 Dec 2024 #75
Jia, you don't know me or anything about me - so how do you know if I'm laughing? hatrack Dec 2024 #54
I am against murder. sarisataka Dec 2024 #59
Applaud that we can still laugh delisen Dec 2024 #60
I'm a fan of gallows humor myself. ShazzieB Dec 2024 #108
Well said delisen Dec 2024 #112
Who says it was in cold blood? Jilly_in_VA Dec 2024 #67
Using that logic SCantiGOP Dec 2024 #88
Other articles I have read say that this ceo Linda ladeewolf Dec 2024 #69
We can't help it. Aussie105 Dec 2024 #79
Very true! Linda ladeewolf Dec 2024 #140
Less Than Zero Tears... Less Than Zero... MayReasonRule Dec 2024 #78
A Mark Twain quote appropriate here SnoopDog Dec 2024 #81
SnoopDog: Concur. FYI (unless Mr. Darrow borrowed it from Mr. Clemens) C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #144
It's a good saying no matter who said it... SnoopDog Dec 2024 #149
You're welcome and I follow that philosophy myself. C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #150
Knowing what Brian Thompson is infamous for, I honestly can't say that I have anymore sympathy for him than I had W T F Dec 2024 #82
I sent tots and pears, DJ Synikus Makisimus Dec 2024 #83
Yes, at this: SunSeeker Dec 2024 #85
We just witnessed the final nail in the coffin of democracy and the elite's are surprised we don't give a flying fuck yaesu Dec 2024 #86
Out loud? Swede Dec 2024 #87
Depends on the man, really. paleotn Dec 2024 #95
Fuck that guy orangecrush Dec 2024 #103
What has claudette Dec 2024 #106
Thompson murdered thousands of people- he just didn't leave fingerprints. hay rick Dec 2024 #107
TL;DR LuvLoogie Dec 2024 #109
You have not reported on the murders we haven't laughed st delisen Dec 2024 #110
WTAFH, new yorker??? The COMMENTS are more lawless than the actual niyad Dec 2024 #115
A plurality of Americans helped elect a convict to the Presidency. lees1975 Dec 2024 #116
and if that 40% NJCher Dec 2024 #143
Unfortunately, many are rejoicing at murder. Patton French Dec 2024 #121
It's despicable - anyone applauding or condoning the murder of someone operating within the bounds of the law had better Midwestern Democrat Dec 2024 #123
Well... LoveSucky Dec 2024 #122
There IS DiverDave Dec 2024 #125
Nobody is laughing. alarimer Dec 2024 #126
It's very sad. Patton French Dec 2024 #128
"UnitedHealth Group, a health-insurance conglomerate valued at five hundred and sixty billion dollars." Botany Dec 2024 #129
Predatory Capitalism kills people everywhere everyday. Emile Dec 2024 #135
yeah, I'm wondering where justice is coming from NJCher Dec 2024 #141
I'm old enough to remember when we were opposed to the death penalty. Patton French Dec 2024 #136
I'm still opposed to Predatory Capitalists killing people! Emile Dec 2024 #138
Indifference is met with indifference. EllieBC Dec 2024 #139
didn't he do NJCher Dec 2024 #142
Yes I believe he was being investigated? EllieBC Dec 2024 #158
I'm starting to LMAO every time it's mentioned The angst over this asshole being shot compared to the Autumn Dec 2024 #147
Justice, Vengeance, Karma, or a Combination of all Three? C0RI0LANUS Dec 2024 #148
No man is an island, Entire of itself, Ping Tung Dec 2024 #151
People Need to Shop for Bullet Proof Baseball Caps and Bullet Proof Clothes with Gloves Socks Oneear Dec 2024 #152
Oh fuck off Jia. Elitist clown. BannonsLiver Dec 2024 #154
... LexVegas Dec 2024 #156
I've heard of another 'New Yorker'----- "former" New Yorker I guess Jack Valentino Dec 2024 #160
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