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Sympthsical

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Mon Dec 9, 2024, 02:07 PM Dec 2024

CEO shooter Luigi Mangione laid out his motive on Good Reads [View all]

I don't think there's going to be a lot of "Why did he do it?" about this one. He left a review of the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski's book.

https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/55354261-luigi-mangione

Clearly written by a mathematics prodigy. Reads like a series of lemmas on the question of 21st century quality of life.

It's easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies. But it's simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out.

He was a violent individual - rightfully imprisoned - who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary.

A take I found online that I think is interesting:

"Had the balls to recognize that peaceful protest has gotten us absolutely nowhere and at the end of the day, he's probably right. Oil barons haven't listened to any environmentalists, but they feared him.

When all other forms of communication fail, violence is necessary to survive. You may not like his methods, but to see things from his perspective, it's not terrorism, it's war and revolution. Fossil fuel companies actively suppress anything that stands in their way and within a generation or two, it will begin costing human lives by greater and greater magnitudes until the earth is just a flaming ball orbiting third from the sun. Peaceful protest is outright ignored, economic protest isn't possible in the current system, so how long until we recognize that violence against those who lead us to such destruction is justified as self-defense.

These companies don't care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?

We're animals just like everything else on this planet, except we've forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival. "Violence never solved anything" is a statement uttered by cowards and predators."
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Post removed Post removed Dec 2024 #1
Prison rape jokes and hopes are not permitted on this Board, last time I checked Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #2
The most powerful man in America IS A RAPIST onecaliberal Dec 2024 #12
As are like at least a quarter of his cabinet secretaries. Karasu Dec 2024 #21
to the extent that prison rape exists, rampartd Dec 2024 #66
Kick dalton99a Dec 2024 #3
He'll be a hero in prison. Demobrat Dec 2024 #4
If he makes it to prison NJCher Dec 2024 #10
Good thing ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #22
Timothy McVeigh killed innocent people. Aristus Dec 2024 #25
Are you ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #26
Timothy McVeigh was found guilty in a court of law. Aristus Dec 2024 #27
you're flipping ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #28
I'm strangely drawn to his side. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2024 #32
I draw a hard line between the two things. ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #35
But isn't it more of an assassination than murder? SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2024 #43
The National Review is a right-wing cesspool. TwilightZone Dec 2024 #46
I purposely used a right-wing source to show the denial. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2024 #65
There is a difference between understanding a motive Demobrat Dec 2024 #38
I see, ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #39
You're better. Demobrat Dec 2024 #40
Seriously. H2O Man Dec 2024 #62
Our "justice system" protects the one percent. That's become more apparent with every high profile BComplex Dec 2024 #29
Our "justice system" protects the one percent. ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #31
Hard to agree that our justice system doesn't favor the 1% Aristus Dec 2024 #36
I'll refer ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #37
You nailed it. H2O Man Dec 2024 #63
OOPS! Marcia Clark spent over 3 times what OJ did. GreenWave Dec 2024 #60
Well this shooter was part of the 1% LeftInTX Dec 2024 #34
He also was an Elon and Thiel stan. This isn't a class isue. Self Esteem Dec 2024 #52
I was trying to figure out what you were saying NJCher Dec 2024 #48
Thank you ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #49
I fully understand your conviction about this soandso Dec 2024 #50
You don't ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #55
I didn't think you were defending insurance companies soandso Dec 2024 #59
I'd love to live in a black and white world NJCher Dec 2024 #56
I'm thankful ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #57
Ok, welllll... NJCher Dec 2024 #58
Did you ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #61
completely mystified as to what your comprehension problem is NJCher Dec 2024 #64
We have a justice system in place... Conjuay Dec 2024 #72
The killer was wealthy himself. He don't need no GFM! LeftInTX Dec 2024 #33
Agree, but when will the board of United Healthcare, Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #71
He supposedly killed a member of the ownership class of this country. He will be suicided. AZLD4Candidate Dec 2024 #70
Fascinating Johnny2X2X Dec 2024 #5
He also posted a review of Brave New World ck4829 Dec 2024 #6
If I were a juror and he had personally witnessed the death of family/friend because of denials, I might have had Silent Type Dec 2024 #7
From his reading list, it looks like he has back problems and an interest in psychedelics among other things. LudwigPastorius Dec 2024 #8
There's an X-ray from a back surgery on his Twitter Sympthsical Dec 2024 #9
just so you know NJCher Dec 2024 #11
The John Rogers quote. spike jones Dec 2024 #13
never read NJCher Dec 2024 #14
It is irony. Atlas Shrugged, not LOTR, is the actual childish fantasy. Celerity Dec 2024 #15
yeah, I thought that NJCher Dec 2024 #16
I believe grok is from Stranger in a Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein. ShazzieB Dec 2024 #18
Yep, that's the one. nolabear Dec 2024 #20
If you don't think fantasy fiction has anything to offer, give it a miss. However, if one likes the genre... Hekate Dec 2024 #41
early involvements in reading NJCher Dec 2024 #53
Damn, I'm always behind! 🤪 ShazzieB Dec 2024 #17
oh, sigh NJCher Dec 2024 #19
Grok iirc is full and complete mental and spiritual understanding between people or of a situation... Hekate Dec 2024 #45
"Violence is as American as cherry pie." cer7711 Dec 2024 #23
His goodreads account is now private. LauraInLA Dec 2024 #24
The EPA was founded in 1970 by Richard Nixon. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2024 #30
I know the type. Jacson6 Dec 2024 #42
This guy was a right winger standingtall Dec 2024 #44
one of his friends is mentioning a possible second motive ecstatic Dec 2024 #47
. dalton99a Dec 2024 #51
that certainly hits home NJCher Dec 2024 #54
+1. The sentiment is shared by many people dalton99a Dec 2024 #68
This was looking to be a good read Blue_Roses Dec 2024 #67
Corporate Media Coverage or Cover up uncledad Dec 2024 #69
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