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Cirsium

(4,123 posts)
20. At a loss
Wed Dec 11, 2024, 02:13 PM
Dec 2024

I think most people are at a loss as to how to change things from within the system. The debate about that has been going on for a long time. I can remember discussions from the 60's among radicals and dissidents in Detroit with some arguing that we should go into politics and "change the system from the inside." Some did and had some success, Tom Hayden and Sam Brown come to mind. Some radicals from a previous generation in Detroit made similar decisions, Mayor Coleman Young, Rev. Albert Cleage for example.

Again and again in US history, pressure from organizations working outside of the system forced social and political change: Abolition, organized Labor, Women's Suffrage, Civil Rights are examples.

Again and again in US history, working within the system has resulted in being co-opted by the system: corporate green washing and the sabotaging the environmental movement is an excellent example of that.

Let's look to the first approach for ideas and inspiration, and stop looking to the second approach.

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Corporate media has also normalized corruption. sop Dec 2024 #1
Normalized grotesque GOP corruption zorbasd Dec 2024 #11
All new US attorneys will be required to sign loyalty pledge JT45242 Dec 2024 #2
Similar to a drone swarm attack jmbar2 Dec 2024 #3
At a loss Cirsium Dec 2024 #20
Well said! Blue_Roses Dec 2024 #21
The media and Democrats could say a lot more about it. Yet... CousinIT Dec 2024 #4
+10,000 BeerBarrelPolka Dec 2024 #5
They have never been held accountable. Blue Full Moon Dec 2024 #6
Our electoral process has become an industry in itself. A huge corrupt industry. CrispyQ Dec 2024 #7
this should be its own post ProfessorPlum Dec 2024 #8
I should have added this paragraph. CrispyQ Dec 2024 #9
Trump will steal all that. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2024 #24
This post speaks for me. The Supreme Court destroyed bronxiteforever Dec 2024 #13
One would hope that the press would.... Old Crank Dec 2024 #10
Luigi Mangione took action. hay rick Dec 2024 #12
Mangione is a gun humping piece of shit murderer Skittles Dec 2024 #22
I'm missing the part where I said he was heroic. hay rick Dec 2024 #25
"took acton" WTF Skittles Dec 2024 #29
What would be the point of prosecution? Grumpy Old Guy Dec 2024 #14
his kleptomaniacal cronies don't have that immunity though ProfessorPlum Dec 2024 #16
Good point Grumpy Old Guy Dec 2024 #18
good point ProfessorPlum Dec 2024 #19
For instance Mblaze Dec 2024 #15
America is treading water in a sea of corporate corruption. GoodRaisin Dec 2024 #17
Time for some divine intervention needed desperately Meowmee Dec 2024 #23
The truth is that many people don't care about Trump's corruption JI7 Dec 2024 #26
There's deafening silence (now) because speaking about it ecstatic Dec 2024 #27
Last paragraph answers: Yes, yes, yes. CanonRay Dec 2024 #28
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