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136 replies	Author	Time	Post
Obama to Grant Banks Robosigning Immunity [View all]	NorthCarolina	Jan 2012	OP
are we surprised?	hobbit709	Jan 2012	#1
I am not.	SammyWinstonJack	Jan 2012	#3
No, can't say that I am...but why is this type of information	NorthCarolina	Jan 2012	#5
It's not on cable news because it's false information. Lies, in other words.	TheWraith	Jan 2012	#20
The source is HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan as reported in the WSJ. See #26.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#59
Because it's nothing but rumors at this point. National Enquirer type stuff. n/t	pnwmom	Jan 2012	#74
That many will swallow this hook line and sinker	whistler162	Jan 2012	#37
If the past is prologue	sulphurdunn	Jan 2012	#87
Doing the Bidding of the Banks	fascisthunter	Jan 2012	#2
Look! Over there! It's Ron Paul & Sarah Palin--KISSING!!!!	Karmadillo	Jan 2012	#4
Du rec. Nt	xchrom	Jan 2012	#6
not news, opinion	spanone	Jan 2012	#7
What? You mean "is drawing closer" and "is poised" is not definitive enough for ya?	Number23	Jan 2012	#100
Do you have this from a credible source? n/t	Ian David	Jan 2012	#8
The source is HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan. His statements were reported in the WSJ.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#26
Donovan says they are reaching a settlement. Kind of a leap to claiming it will be a "pardon." n/t	Ian David	Jan 2012	#116
Only the President can issue a pardon. Did you just create a strawman?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#120
No, the OP did. n/t	Ian David	Jan 2012	#125
The OP doesn't mention "pardon" at all.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#126
I tried to edit my post to say "immunity," but DU glitched and did a double-post. n/t	Ian David	Jan 2012	#129
Donovan says they are reaching a settlement. Kind of a leap to claiming it will be "immunity." n/t	Ian David	Jan 2012	#117
A "leap" to claim it will be immunity? Then don't call it immunity.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#121
I didn't. The OP did. n/t	Ian David	Jan 2012	#124
The OP called it "immunity" is because it is immunity. If you don't want to, don't do so.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#127
The editorial from a non-trusted source called it immunity.	Ian David	Jan 2012	#128
Yep, the editorial got it right.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#130
Maybe. n/t	Ian David	Jan 2012	#131
Your FUCKING Kidding me	FreakinDJ	Jan 2012	#9
What would the flip side be? Free houses for everyone?	dkf	Jan 2012	#10
This message was self-deleted by its author	2pooped2pop	Jan 2012	#14
message self deleted because	2pooped2pop	Jan 2012	#15
Banks have foreclosed upon some not in default. Flip side? Prosecute robosigner higher-ups.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#29
Lets say there are 100 of such cases nationwide. Full actual damages x2 should be paid.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#41
Misdemeanor prosecutions? = not enough. Mail fraud is a felony. Organized mail fraud = RICO.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#47
If the wrong property was seized then that looks like a nice $2,000,000+ lawsuit to me.	dkf	Jan 2012	#90
No lawsuit for a 82-year-old retiree would be a nice lawsuit. The bank will delay and wait him out.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#93
Um. Because so called "robo signing" is FORGERY.	PassingFair	Jan 2012	#44
Impersonating a notary is a misdemeanor - a small fine. It is NOT forgery.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#56
Do you have any authority for a belief that guilt for a lesser included crime excuses guilt for a	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#60
It's forgery. Impersonation meansrepresentingonesself as...	elehhhhna	Jan 2012	#103
PassingFair, you may have confused perjury with forgery, but this does involve forgery.	ms.smiler	Jan 2012	#63
Thank you!	PassingFair	Jan 2012	#66
Yes. As an example, a Nevada grand jury indicted two robosigners who admitted creating forgeries.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#68
You haven't been illegally foreclosed on obviously.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#53
Was your friend delinquent on her mortgage loan?	dkf	Jan 2012	#91
What's the problem? In this country, our citizens are entitled to due process of law.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#94
dkf, you asked of Sabrina 1 “was your friend delinquent on her mortgage loan?”	ms.smiler	Jan 2012	#96
I'm sure Sabrina's friend knows if she was delinquent or not.	dkf	Jan 2012	#134
dkf, it simply isn't possible to declare a default based upon a partical accounting of a loan.	ms.smiler	Jan 2012	#136
First, she and her husband had paid their mortgage on time for ten years.	sabrina 1	Jan 2012	#98
Obviously not. I for example don't own a house so I won't be getting one.	TheKentuckian	Jan 2012	#54
Mortage backed securities should be made illegal	eridani	Jan 2012	#86
I don't think there would be enough deposits to create the loans if mortgages weren't sold.	dkf	Jan 2012	#92
What do you mean by "people"?	eridani	Jan 2012	#104
Anyone with savings makes a decision on depositing it with a bank or	dkf	Jan 2012	#132
Wrong, the lower the income, the more people prioritize	eridani	Jan 2012	#133
If true this is good. Robosigning = small fine in each instance.	banned from Kos	Jan 2012	#11
'"deferred prosecution" that Obama has continued from the Bush era.' K&R (nt)	T S Justly	Jan 2012	#12
Op Ed Piece by random anonymous author.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#13
See # 26.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#30
That does not answer my statement.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#35
You either (1) indicated a desire for knowledge or (2) were merely criticizing the OP as being "an	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#38
Yes, I can use Google, and did.	MineralMan	Jan 2012	#45
Bad dodge, you guys don't even care to be honest any longer	uponit7771	Jan 2012	#88
I looked on the White House web site to see if I could find any info on this	Autumn	Jan 2012	#16
I really can't be against anything that gives millions of home buyers major relief on their loans	nanabugg	Jan 2012	#18
I really am defiantly against any corporation who breaks the law not being	Autumn	Jan 2012	#22
Absolutely. I'm also for prosecuting every bank executive who was knowingly involved with this.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#33
So crime is okay long as they're nice to the hostages?	JackRiddler	Jan 2012	#27
Well, why not ask the people whose mortgage loans are involved?	nanabugg	Jan 2012	#36
Yes, why not take advantage of those already helpless?	JackRiddler	Jan 2012	#43
It's on the WSJ website. The source is the HUD Secretary. See # 26.	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#31
Now it starts.	99Forever	Jan 2012	#17
It's always mentioned that an industry "agrees to reforms"	Nevernose	Jan 2012	#19
Shocked, shocked I tell ya!	TransitJohn	Jan 2012	#21
$19 billion is peanuts, chicken-feed, nothing.	bemildred	Jan 2012	#23
Here we go again. There's a new one every day.	woo me with science	Jan 2012	#24
Agreed : Occupy	FreakinDJ	Jan 2012	#67
You have GOT to be fucking kidding me... nt	Poll_Blind	Jan 2012	#25
This is a chess move. Obama is 10 steps ahead.	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2012	#28
It would be easier if they would just give us a list as to what we are supposed to trust and believe	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#32
Whoop, There It Is... K & R !!!	WillyT	Jan 2012	#34
Obama caves. Water is wet. And, bears really do shit in the woods.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Jan 2012	#39
that is true about bears	SwampG8r	Jan 2012	#79
this is why the Bain stuff can only hurt Rmoney absolutely, but not relatively	MisterP	Jan 2012	#40
The $19 billion in proposed principal reductions carry a hidden cost	Neue Regel	Jan 2012	#42
The stench of corruption is becoming overwhelming.	Moondog	Jan 2012	#46
Obama is so much like FDR I can't stand it!	Edweird	Jan 2012	#48
Can I borrow that?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#49
Sure ;)	Edweird	Jan 2012	#51
Thank you, Kamala Harris, for opting out of this farce. n/t	EFerrari	Jan 2012	#50
+100000	woo me with science	Jan 2012	#122
I've been told that	rudycantfail	Jan 2012	#52
+1	TransitJohn	Jan 2012	#105
Breaking news: Newt Gingrich is getting married!!	mfcorey1	Jan 2012	#55
Obama to announce gutting Social Security and Medicare in the 2011 SOTU address!!	AtomicKitten	Jan 2012	#57
Why would he do that in the SOTU address? Why wouldn't he wait until after the election?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#95
Hopeychangealicious ...all the doodaaday long.	L0oniX	Jan 2012	#58
How soon will we be informed that this has been structured to allow the banks to claim tax losses?	AnotherMcIntosh	Jan 2012	#61
Woohoo!	progressoid	Jan 2012	#62
Obama becomes complicit in the theft	lovuian	Jan 2012	#64
Shit	Fuzz	Jan 2012	#65
WHY?!?!?! He shows signs of greatness and doing something SOMETHING awesome instead he	Justice wanted	Jan 2012	#69
The surprise is...	upi402	Jan 2012	#70
Disgusting.	girl gone mad	Jan 2012	#71
Torturers and war criminals are all free too	just1voice	Jan 2012	#72
What's wrong? did you NOT see him sing Al Green?	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#73
Why is he protecting the banks? Does anyone have a (comprehensive) reason?	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#75
Isn't it obvious that it could "sink the recovering economy"?	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#78
That's what Johnathan Alter thinks, but I don't see the connection to clear mortgage fraud...	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#80
I think the issue would be huge lawsuits resulting in damages...	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#81
Isn't it quite different to take on systemic illegalities?	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#82
Yeah, but how much harder is it to go from close to 1000 prosecutions...	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#83
My point is not to the difficulty of more prosecutions	jsmirman	Jan 2012	#85
I think you hit on an important point when you said...	YvonneCa	Jan 2012	#97
I completely agree with you and think you are right, peons shouldn't be crucified.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#110
Agreed. Blanket immunity...	YvonneCa	Jan 2012	#113
I only know what I have read in various...	YvonneCa	Jan 2012	#99
Thanks for the comprehensive reply!	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#109
I agree completely. The entire systemic mess was created...	YvonneCa	Jan 2012	#112
Why it's being done? Because they have a lot of cash to donate.	TransitJohn	Jan 2012	#106
I might not mind so much, IF	Remember Me	Jan 2012	#76
before reading any of the replies	SwampG8r	Jan 2012	#77
Sold out again.	pam4water	Jan 2012	#84
**THERE'S NO PROOF OF THE OP EDS STATEMENTS ON WHITEHOUSE.GOV***	uponit7771	Jan 2012	#89
You really would expect proof there!?	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#101
Bank immunity has been going on for the past two years. The anouncement may come tomorrow.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#107
Can you explain your position a little better?	Bonobo	Jan 2012	#108
I'm saying that Obama doing it is not new or controversial.	joshcryer	Jan 2012	#111
God	Vanje	Jan 2012	#102
This message was self-deleted by its author	AtomicKitten	Jan 2012	#114
Hey the banksters need the money	Rex	Jan 2012	#115
Will this settlement be unconstitutional though?	JCMach1	Jan 2012	#118
Kick. nt	woo me with science	Jan 2012	#119
And over on the Chris Hedges' thread --	Hell Hath No Fury	Jan 2012	#123
Where does it say the Attornies General are going to cave?	lonestarnot	Jan 2012	#135

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