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NJCher

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Wed Dec 18, 2024, 12:21 AM Dec 2024

Smart Elections Report on Drop-Off Ballots Just Released! [View all]

Last edited Wed Dec 18, 2024, 12:57 AM - Edit history (1)

Quite frankly, there was so much juicy stuff to snip I had a problem deciding where to take my excerpt.

You will not knock this off in one night. This is some heavy duty reading.

Methodology is discussed and there are plenty of charts and graphs to help you visually understand. It's an amaziing job: one that supports suspicions that this election may have been manipulated.

Smart Elections wants us to share this report, so if you read it and it makes sense to you, feel free to send this link far and wide.

https://smartelections.substack.com/p/the-press-release?r=em94l&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

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Republicans have also taken note of the drop-off figures, wondering conversely why the large Republican vote for president is somehow not reflected in their Senate and other down-ballot races.

Number of Votes Involved is Larger Than Margin of Victory
The number of votes contained in these drop-off margins are startling. In five of the six swing states that are included in the analysis, the margin of drop-off votes is greater than the margin of victory.

Arizona

Drop-off margin = 267,956

Margin of victory = 187,382

Drop-off is 80,574 votes more than the margin of victory

Michigan

Drop-off margin = 99,109

Margin of victory = 80,103

Drop-off is 19,006 votes more than the margin of victory

Nevada

Drop-off margin = 70,067

Margin of victory = 46,008

Drop-off is 24,059 votes more than the margin of victory

North Carolina

Drop-off margin = 341,949

Margin of victory = 183,047

Drop-off is 158,902 votes more than the margin of victory

Wisconsin

Drop-off margin = 58,178

Margin of victory = 29,397

Drop-off is 28,781 votes more than the margin of victory

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Bring the smelling salts! I feel faint! dchill Dec 2024 #1
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How would immunity give him the power to force recounts? FBaggins Dec 2024 #25
Which laws would you like Joe to violate? tritsofme Dec 2024 #110
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You said you want Joe to "use" his immunity. The only way to do that is to violate federal laws tritsofme Dec 2024 #118
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Let the Putin/Musk et al investigations begin NJCher Dec 2024 #3
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But what about hard evidence? Polybius Dec 2024 #38
Begin BoRaGard Dec 2024 #140
From article: dchill Dec 2024 #4
K&r questionseverything Dec 2024 #5
All of what you posted required physical access to the server Abnredleg Dec 2024 #47
You need to show how it COULDN'T have happened. dchill Dec 2024 #62
No - I don't have the burden of proof Abnredleg Dec 2024 #66
Neither do I. dchill Dec 2024 #67
On the Internet that is true Abnredleg Dec 2024 #70
DU is not a fucking court of law. dchill Dec 2024 #72
I didn't say it was Abnredleg Dec 2024 #73
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Actually it's only the reporting page a " hacker" would have to breach questionseverything Dec 2024 #84
No Abnredleg Dec 2024 #86
You are 2 funny, like you personally oversee every reporting page in the nation questionseverything Dec 2024 #89
Vote counting is done with bipartisan observers Abnredleg Dec 2024 #90
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Kick. Rec. Bookmark. Hekate Dec 2024 #6
Everyone who is still suffering from total disbelief that this could have possibly happened for real BComplex Dec 2024 #8
Then why didn't the Democratic Party counter this? Where arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #14
Marc Elias KNOWS how it was stolen, but his law firm is putting out a million fires. It's up to the Democratic party BComplex Dec 2024 #30
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I'm not sure I understand the point of spreading misinformation about Marc. He's never embraced these denialist tritsofme Dec 2024 #109
He most certainly has discussed the many ways in which the republicans stole the election. BComplex Dec 2024 #121
Feel free to post a link. He's certainly never endorsed the sort of conspiracy theories in the OP. tritsofme Dec 2024 #126
So your theory is the guy famous for fighting for voter rights EdmondDantes_ Dec 2024 #125
Are you all ok with this and going to let it stand? arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #15
I have written to all the top democrats and insisted that a formal and forensic audit should be done BComplex Dec 2024 #31
Very true, but it's frustrating beyond the pale what he's got arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #46
Audits are done as part of certification Abnredleg Dec 2024 #48
Ok, I am seriously disturbed by this. REALLY fucking disturbed. I trust every poster in this thread (here is a current Celerity Dec 2024 #9
Looks like evidence of votes not being counted and called questionseverything Dec 2024 #17
Bullet ballot voting was within historical norms Abnredleg Dec 2024 #49
These rates in the OP for Trump dropoff are vastly higher than what your link shows. Celerity Dec 2024 #54
The OP is breaking votes out by party Abnredleg Dec 2024 #59
I am not satisfied it is simply due to party break-out. Those Trump drop off rates are crazy high, certainly not within Celerity Dec 2024 #124
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so is the takeaway that votes were taken from Harris somehow in these states? (nt) cadoman Dec 2024 #10
The numbers do not rule that out. dchill Dec 2024 #13
is a statistical abnormality evidence of fraud? tfg claimed the same cadoman Dec 2024 #29
If that argument is logical to you NJCher Dec 2024 #33
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The difference is Georgia was hand counted so we had some physical proof tfg lost questionseverything Dec 2024 #107
The voting machines were secure when that guy was in charge of the election in 2020. Trump fired him before BComplex Dec 2024 #58
Wisconsin would need less than 9 votes per precinct to change result questionseverything Dec 2024 #18
No Abnredleg Dec 2024 #60
Thank you! Bookmarked to read tomorrow. Silver Gaia Dec 2024 #11
Why wasn't this information out there the day after the election? arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #12
The official numbers don't come out right away questionseverything Dec 2024 #19
A timely manner? You have an autocratic coming into office arthritisR_US Dec 2024 #20
I just mean they did a huge amount of work quickly questionseverything Dec 2024 #24
It was Abnredleg Dec 2024 #50
Aside keepthemhonestO Dec 2024 #104
I don't see any sign anyone in the party is going to do anything Meowmee Dec 2024 #16
"I don't need your votes. I have enough votes. You'll never have to vote again." Uh huh. Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #26
And by accusing democrats of programming the voting machines to count extra votes for Biden, he has admitted BComplex Dec 2024 #32
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This is the debunked bullet ballot argument Abnredleg Dec 2024 #52
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"just" calling it NJCher Dec 2024 #81
I show up with the same argument that Harris and the Democtratic Party makes Abnredleg Dec 2024 #85
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Definition of a fair election NJCher Dec 2024 #98
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Or this. Musk's 5yo tells us what his dad is doing Babajida Dec 2024 #127
Leads me to wonder if there is a "Deeper State" outside the State bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #27
Would it be rude to say "Duh?" dchill Dec 2024 #61
Yes but such an entity has never been specified bucolic_frolic Dec 2024 #69
What happens if this is proved beyond all doubt... MiHale Dec 2024 #28
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Why do you suppose all of those parties are silent and not championing these ridiculous conspiracy theories? tritsofme Dec 2024 #113
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It's pretty simple. They are not gullible enough to fall for silly conspiracy theories. tritsofme Dec 2024 #131
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You asked why actual credible parties are not seeking "injunctive relief" tritsofme Dec 2024 #136
What is a "drop-off" vote, Pew Research says they're people who don't vote consistently in every election I'm thinking uponit7771 Dec 2024 #34
It's the difference between votes for President and down ballot races Abnredleg Dec 2024 #43
Ah, ... I heard they were called bullet ballots uponit7771 Dec 2024 #55
They've repackaged the bullet ballot argument /NT Abnredleg Dec 2024 #57
What they are saying is the senate race had many more votes than the presidential race questionseverything Dec 2024 #83
They only came to that conclusion because they ignored the idea that split ticket voting occurs MichMan Dec 2024 #102
Ok, this is a data point FHRRK Dec 2024 #35
I don't understand this... LeftInTX Dec 2024 #45
It's undervoting Abnredleg Dec 2024 #53
Oh........ LeftInTX Dec 2024 #56
You said, as you go down the list there are more undervotes questionseverything Dec 2024 #87
Which 4 states are you referring to? MichMan Dec 2024 #103
You need to read the material you are disputing questionseverything Dec 2024 #106
Which is a completely disingenuous analysis that proves absolutely nothing MichMan Dec 2024 #108
We are free to disagree questionseverything Dec 2024 #112
All I want for Christmas is the DoJ to investigate this. redqueen Dec 2024 #51
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"What part of the spectrum of Ds does that originate from?" Sympthsical Dec 2024 #65
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If reality feels mean, I don't know what to tell you Sympthsical Dec 2024 #78
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I think it would be nice if NJCher Dec 2024 #82
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It's the chicken wire and charcoal fluid of statistics Sympthsical Dec 2024 #117
Agreed DET Dec 2024 #76
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I agree keepthemhonestO Dec 2024 #105
Numbers they provide don't make any sense when compared with actual state results MichMan Dec 2024 #64
They cherry-picked to maximize suspicion Sympthsical Dec 2024 #68
Sorry, I don't admire anyone who manipulates and misrepresents data to fit their agenda and rile up gullible people MichMan Dec 2024 #71
I meant I admire your attempt Sympthsical Dec 2024 #74
Of course the election results were manipulated. SheltieLover Dec 2024 #101
I won't say they were obviously manipulated but questionseverything Dec 2024 #111
I'm definitely convinced SheltieLover Dec 2024 #133
I agree it certainly looks like it was stolen and I agree it's past time for hand counts questionseverything Dec 2024 #137
That was the exact argument Trumpers made four years ago. It's not any stronger today. tritsofme Dec 2024 #132
Don't underestimate the number of gullible people out there MichMan Dec 2024 #114
Duck Typing Metaphorical Dec 2024 #122
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Shitler kept insisting that the election was stolen from him. love_katz Dec 2024 #128
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What is disheartening Babajida Dec 2024 #129
What would you like Democrats to fight against? Reality? tritsofme Dec 2024 #134
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