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59. So you have to get someone to primary

Wed Dec 18, 2024, 04:40 PM

Dec 2024

the candidates you don't like. AOC challenged Nancy Pelosi and lost because elected Democrats stood with Pelosi.
I'm sorry, the close house, even with the extensive gerrymandering, is because of Democrats like Pelosi.
The older ones will be gone soon anyway.

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Pelosi Won. The Democratic Party Lost. [View all] Celerity Dec 2024 OP

In before the hide. Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #1

Here is a breakdown on the Progressive Caucus and the New Democrat Coalition numbers Celerity Dec 2024 #7

When I hear centrists/moderates are taking over the party, intheflow Dec 2024 #12

Exactly Pelosi is moderate and centrist THAT IS THE PROBLEM IrishBubbaLiberal Dec 2024 #32

... lapucelle Dec 2024 #152

Centrists/moderates are less extreme corporatists Glaisne Dec 2024 #50

JFK was a centrist Dem. But Republicans were moving farther wnylib Dec 2024 #68

Thank you for the historical context. yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #81

Thank you! I try to tell people that JFK was a moderate, but no one believes me! LeftInTX Dec 2024 #120

This was a good roundup, thanks SpankMe Dec 2024 #138

Changes do not all come at once. wnylib Dec 2024 #148

In my thinking a Centrist in the Democratic Party has the same thought process as 1950's right wing. LiberalArkie Dec 2024 #132

It doesn't matter if the CPC is in the minority Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #22

I hope the CPC is able to have a good deal of impact going forward, I was only showing it may well be a not so friendly Celerity Dec 2024 #27

We don't need centrists we need kacekwl Dec 2024 #84

SMH? MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #125

Democrats pretending to be GOP-Lite never succeed at policies or winning voters. ZonkerHarris Dec 2024 #92

I worry about the party slightlv Dec 2024 #108

It is the actual name: New Democrat Coalition. Similar in multiple ways to the now-gone DLC. Celerity Dec 2024 #111

We've been railing against the right using noun like an adjective but now we're doing it? CrispyQ Dec 2024 #141

I wager they use Democrat because of the term New Democrat Celerity Dec 2024 #143

Thanks for the explanation but it just sounds wrong & CrispyQ Dec 2024 #144

'liberal' in other nations most often means centre to centre-right: deregulation, free (not fair) trade, privatisation, Celerity Dec 2024 #147

First she forces Biden to step down because of his age... Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #11

Attendance is more important than ever, too. We cannot afford this stupid shit just because the gerontocracy is fucking Karasu Dec 2024 #17

I am a member of the old folks club now and I want them to go home MuseRider Dec 2024 #63

Absolutely. Also a member of the geezer club, but these folks need to look... the nelm Dec 2024 #80

Exactly, time for Nancy to step down. She's older than Joe. Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #83

Very well said. I completely agree. Karasu Dec 2024 #87

Nancy is the most briliant and productive House Speaker ever MadameButterfly Dec 2024 #126

She's made other missteps too Arazi Dec 2024 #43

Few survive what he's got. IzzaNuDay Dec 2024 #85

Wondering if they don't want someone effective that position. Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #86

It's the corporatocracy that must go. Glaisne Dec 2024 #45

Does this mean young Democrats...... SergeStorms Dec 2024 #62

So, if I post a question or tweek a Democrat, I get a nasty note from 'yall but this is OK NotHardly Dec 2024 #76

Just wanted to let you know that if you get 5 posts hidden Crunchy Frog Dec 2024 #121

I wouldn't call that a "radical" move Bluetus Dec 2024 #94

Which move are you saying isn't radical? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #95

I am saying I would not consider it at all "radical" Bluetus Dec 2024 #96

Same here, in before the hide gay texan Dec 2024 #2

Then if you want to bring in new people calguy Dec 2024 #135

LOL! gay texan Dec 2024 #137

There's so many of the Boomer Generation, and they live longer than ever before... Parallax El Dec 2024 #139

K&R Think. Again. Dec 2024 #3

Gods, me too! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Dec 2024 #29

Unfortunately I can see that very thing happening as well. If Pelosi, Jeffries, and Schumer put the kibosh on him behind Celerity Dec 2024 #31

She needs to retire. Dawson Leery Dec 2024 #4

She's 84 with a busted hip HereForTheParty Dec 2024 #97

When opportunity presents itself you have to take advantage of it. I was really hoping this would be AOC's moment. walkingman Dec 2024 #5

DuRec leftstreet Dec 2024 #6

A truly important, important post Mike 03 Dec 2024 #8

Kurt Bardella made a virtually identical argument last night on Mike 03 Dec 2024 #9

What is up her a$$? Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #10

Post removed Post removed Dec 2024 #13

Another day another bunch of critics of Democrats. live love laugh Dec 2024 #14

It's called discussion on a discussion board. Events happen, & they are discussed. If (as has every poster up until you) Celerity Dec 2024 #18

Earl G Elessar Zappa Dec 2024 #42

At 72 I have been an active dem for many years Lifeafter70 Dec 2024 #99

When was it not time for the young ones to do the fighting? DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 2024 #119

This train is running off the tracks, we need a new engineer. Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #15

"History has tried hard to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians. Ping Tung Dec 2024 #16

The USS Democracy just hit a very ancient iceberg and is going down fast. nt yaesu Dec 2024 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #20

Not for dead women. onecaliberal Dec 2024 #21

Who are the "dead women"? whathehell Dec 2024 #35

The ones being denied healthcare at ERs. -nt CrispyQ Dec 2024 #61

I understand. n/t whathehell Dec 2024 #73

I understand now. n/t whathehell Dec 2024 #75

I believe MsLeopard Dec 2024 #66

Tomorrows aren't looking so good these days. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2024 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #24

Mending too? Goodness. rzemanfl Dec 2024 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #53

Well darn. You're right. rzemanfl Dec 2024 #82

Operative words: party elders relayerbob Dec 2024 #25

The party already lost on Nov. 5 Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #26

DEM elders like Pelosi suffer from a lack of youthful enthusiasm and "no-holds-barred" get it done IrishBubbaLiberal Dec 2024 #28

It is up to AOC to take the gloves off. Passages Dec 2024 #30

I'm sure she will but she is still very young and ha s along carreer ahead of her LymphocyteLover Dec 2024 #34

Technically yes, but our party has very little time to counter Trump. Passages Dec 2024 #37

I think she really did try her best, but she simply did not have the numbers once Pelosi and other Party leaders Celerity Dec 2024 #39

Her tactics must change, concessions to leadership have failed b/c they still want to embrace Passages Dec 2024 #41

I truly understand (and sympathise) with what you are saying, but IF AOC goes in all guns ablazing, she will only Celerity Dec 2024 #44

One of the smart things AOC has done is to eschew the 'donor class' in favor of running a PatrickforB Dec 2024 #51

Yes. Passages Dec 2024 #54

She tried that when she was newly elected Arazi Dec 2024 #70

Imo, she backed down quickly and has no rewards for her efforts. Passages Dec 2024 #79

this is BS. The Dem party has a seniority system and AOC is great but just not senior enough. This is a needless bash of LymphocyteLover Dec 2024 #33

Yes, and that senority system gave us Joe Biden as a candidate. intheflow Dec 2024 #47

No, the seniority system had nothing to do with Biden getting the nomination LymphocyteLover Dec 2024 #112

I'm talking this election, not 2020. intheflow Dec 2024 #128

that makes even less sense since Biden dropped out LymphocyteLover Dec 2024 #130

They ran Biden in 2020 based on seniority. intheflow Dec 2024 #145

Biden got the nomination in 2020 because he was seen as the most experienced and was popular with Black people because LymphocyteLover Dec 2024 #150

The seniority system has NOT served us well since 2016. n/t PatrickforB Dec 2024 #49

So, maybe when she's 75 Bettie Dec 2024 #56

JFK was only 43 when he was elected President. Emile Dec 2024 #65

Biden himself was only 29yo when he first won a US Senate seat. Obama had only been in the US Congress for 2 years Celerity Dec 2024 #124

The seniority system has evolved into a pretty rigid gerontocracy preservation system, at the expense of new Celerity Dec 2024 #64

I supported Pelosi for all her fight in the past. bronxiteforever Dec 2024 #36

Many of these Dems have been great and now it's time to step aside and let te people who's Nanjeanne Dec 2024 #38

Pelosi needs to go. Cattledog Dec 2024 #40

I love Nancy Pelosi, but the future requires people who will be in it. Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #46

Shoulda picked AOC. Sigh. n/t PatrickforB Dec 2024 #48

Sorry to see negative stuff from TNR. elleng Dec 2024 #55

Reporting the truth is not always positive. Emile Dec 2024 #58

The body count is climbing. First, Joe, now AOC. CentralMass Dec 2024 #57

So you have to get someone to primary Progressive dog Dec 2024 #59

AOC is not favored by the big donors and corporations. jalan48 Dec 2024 #60

Oh no, a new party that represents the people who Emile Dec 2024 #67

Big donors and especially big corporations, desire, far too often, an ideologically tame, corp-freindly Democratic Party Celerity Dec 2024 #74

So, we learned nothing from the RBG debacle? Afrocat Dec 2024 #69

What did we learn from RBG? "Don't elect Republicans?" JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2024 #131

indeed Afrocat Dec 2024 #151

Lemme get this straight... GiqueCee Dec 2024 #71

The reason Kamala lost was she sucked up to the big money, along w the DNC and most Dem 'leaders'. DataDrivenFP Dec 2024 #146

i wish the focus would be on the corruption, not the age PedroXimenez Dec 2024 #72

Power corrupts Mysterian Dec 2024 #77

I have been pleasantly surprised by the general reaction here hurl Dec 2024 #78

Does Congress have a mentoring culture? IzzaNuDay Dec 2024 #88

Big fan of both Pelosi and AOC. Pelosi made a tragic mistake. A braver move to actively support AOC. lostnfound Dec 2024 #89

Pelosi conspiracy theories. For a couple years idiots swore she wouldn't impeach Trump betsuni Dec 2024 #90

To be frank, ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #91

If Pelosi is so smart SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #93

I'll refer ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #102

A non-answer, answer SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #110

Yes, she ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #113

Current leadership SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #114

You are ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #115

Current leadership was SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #116

Ok. ForgedCrank Dec 2024 #117

Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 Dec 2024 #118

I think the point here is we are losing. We lost bigly. AllyCat Dec 2024 #129

Disagree with most of that, for reasons I have laid out for years here from a multiple number of angles, not all of them Celerity Dec 2024 #105

Who the hell else is there to vote for? "What's past is prologue" Autumn Dec 2024 #98

I see you posted a news article. I can not tell where the snip srats and your comment starts. DontBelieveEastisEas Dec 2024 #100

I absolutely disagree with what Pelosi did. My personal comments throughout the thread and elswhere on DU Celerity Dec 2024 #104

Term limits!!! seta1950 Dec 2024 #101

They're not learning ThePartyThatListens Dec 2024 #103

I would say far more utterly predictable than pathetic, at least atm. Celerity Dec 2024 #107

AOC would also be great in this role TheFarseer Dec 2024 #106

Pelosi needs to go away... Period...You stage a coup and lose and there are consequences JT45242 Dec 2024 #109

Pelosi's only mistake in the Biden matter was not doing it MUCH EARLIER - like January 2024 - or better yet stopping Midwestern Democrat Dec 2024 #136

This stuff happens alot in politics. It's clanny, cliquey, territorial and petty! LeftInTX Dec 2024 #122

This is the reason why the generational change will be such a shock when it happens. Renew Deal Dec 2024 #123

I have scolded a few times that even using the term 'generational change' is inherently ageist, which is ludicrous, but Celerity Dec 2024 #149

Youth and vigor is needed in the fight against MAGA pfitz59 Dec 2024 #127

Looking at the vote, she had little to do with it. it was going to happen. themaguffin Dec 2024 #133

That is exactly right, and it wasn't a close vote either. Typical scape goating that is all too common among certain JohnSJ Dec 2024 #140

I can't stand Pelosi alarimer Dec 2024 #134

They've been rolling over and playing dead since 2000 GoreWon2000 Dec 2024 #142