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EarlG

(23,592 posts)
Thu Dec 26, 2024, 03:44 PM Dec 2024

Continuing the discussion about adding a couple of new forums to DU [View all]

Hi all,

I previously floated the idea that we should open a new forum to discuss the future of the Democratic Party. That thread received a lot of positive responses, and a lot of good name suggestions. Given that most of the suggestions recommended a forward-looking approach, I'm currently considering that we call this forum The Way Forward. I'm still working on a Statement of Purpose, but I think this new forum is a good idea, and something we will do early in the new year.

I'm also going to propose an idea for a second new forum. Here's the deal. The fact is that the noise-to-signal ratio in American politics is off the charts right now, and as we all know, this is something that Donald Trump relishes in, and uses (effectively, unfortunately) to keep his supporters in line and his opponents off balance.

My proposal is that we open a new top-level forum solely for the discussion of whatever the latest Trump BS may be, and I suggest that we call this forum Latest Trump BS. What do I mean by latest Trump BS? I mean anything that he spews out to troll, distract, misinform, or float as a trial balloon, as opposed to things his administration is actually doing in real life.

For example, a news story about a late-night tweet from Trump suggesting that we take over Greenland would be perfect for the Latest Trump BS forum. However, a news story about about Donald Trump directing the Joint Chiefs of Staff to start drawing up invasion plans for Greenland would be more appropriate in General Discussion or Latest Breaking News.

Currently we are set up to treat these stories as if they are the same thing, and so General Discussion gets a mashup of content which mixes Trump's brain farts with his actual policies and actions. But really, they are not the same thing at all, and this seems to be the conundrum that American media is currently struggling with. Because Trump will be president, every single thing he says is treated as if it's newsworthy, even if most of the things he says are more reminiscent of someone's drunk uncle propping up the end of the bar.

Like it or not, we are stuck with Trump for another four years, Meanwhile, Trump fatigue is real -- most of us are suffering from it even now, and he hasn't even been inaugurated yet. But we can't NOT talk about Trump for the next four years -- this is a political website, and Donald Trump will be the president.

The idea of this new top-level forum would be to try to separate the noise from the signal -- to provide a place where those who wish to engage with the latest Trump BS are free to do so (I have no criticism of anyone who would want to do that), while those who would like to engage in discussions of the actual real-world ramifications of Trump's actual policies, while avoiding much of the other extraneous BS should they choose to do so, can use GD or LBN.

This would require some finesse, attention from Forum Hosts, and some patience while we work to figure out what goes where, but I think that it might be doable.

That said, we might try it and find out that it's impractical. It might not be easy to figure out which threads should go where, and that might lead to annoyance and confusion among the membership in general.


And so, I present this idea for your consideration. What do you think?

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Well he could croak and do the planet a favor malaise Dec 2024 #1
I'd chip in to triple size AdamGG Dec 2024 #53
LOl malaise Dec 2024 #68
I like it. cilla4progress Dec 2024 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #3
I always thought it was a great place for crack-pots and conspiracy theories. It was nice to have that confined to emulatorloo Dec 2024 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #65
Don't take it so personally. Just being silly. And we're fundamentally in agreement that we both miss the forum. emulatorloo Dec 2024 #104
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #105
You're overthinking this. emulatorloo Dec 2024 #106
I like it ... UpInArms Dec 2024 #4
Motion to Approve ZDU Dec 2024 #5
All in favor say Aye! (Loud murmuring) all opposed say No (quieter murmuring) underpants Dec 2024 #58
LOL ZDU Dec 2024 #79
Well, it's your website, so go for it. MineralMan Dec 2024 #6
I approve heartily of both these forums! Absolutely right and thank you, my dear EarlG! nt CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2024 #7
I'm all in! bif Dec 2024 #8
Would love that DeepWinter Dec 2024 #9
EXACTLY! So burnt out with dump posts! Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #34
I think it's a good idea canetoad Dec 2024 #10
That's an even BETTER idea!!! Think. Again. Dec 2024 #44
sometimes this place seems like trumpunderground. how bout a forum for all Trump posts? nt msongs Dec 2024 #11
Sound like good ideas. 2naSalit Dec 2024 #12
Yes!!! Thanks! n/t KatK Dec 2024 #13
Absolutely brilliant ideas, EarlG. Blue Dawn Dec 2024 #14
Excellent. mahina Dec 2024 #15
I for one have had it with Trump ItsjustMe Dec 2024 #16
"Latest Trump BS" is an outstanding idea Mike 03 Dec 2024 #17
"Trump says...." vs what Trump does.... LeftInTX Dec 2024 #18
Have to admit I laughed out loud at "Latest Trump BS" - TBF Dec 2024 #19
I like it. sinkingfeeling Dec 2024 #20
What would happen when drumpf BS gets posted outside that forum? JoseBalow Dec 2024 #21
I'd say you've identified the concern EarlG Dec 2024 #27
I can see how distinguishing between BS and real news wnylib Dec 2024 #50
Honestly... littlemissmartypants Dec 2024 #22
Seems a bit "snow flakey" to me, but I appear to be in the minority. Vinca Dec 2024 #23
See my reply above EarlG Dec 2024 #28
I support creating both forums Fiendish Thingy Dec 2024 #24
The party needs to be better organized and responsive. LiberalFighter Dec 2024 #25
Good idea, I think it will be useful, but... Shipwack Dec 2024 #26
"Trump's Latest Idiocy" carries more of a punch. n/t SpankMe Dec 2024 #29
Good Idea FrankTC Dec 2024 #30
Great ideas. Auggie Dec 2024 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Tbear Dec 2024 #32
I like the idea of quarantining news of trump trolling. A lot. Scrivener7 Dec 2024 #33
Me too. Think. Again. Dec 2024 #41
Both Seem Excellent Ideas ProfessorGAC Dec 2024 #35
I fully support both forum ideas. Mr.Bill Dec 2024 #36
That is some good parsing of what will probably be reality BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #37
Putting all dump news in one forum is an idea I'm on board with. Clouds Passing Dec 2024 #38
You are very much on to the right ideas, EarlG, & I like where you're going... Hekate Dec 2024 #39
I absolutely love the "trump BS forum" idea! Think. Again. Dec 2024 #40
Sounds Good To Me WiVoter Dec 2024 #42
Brilliant about Keeping TSF's BS in Cha Dec 2024 #43
YES Jughead Dec 2024 #45
Hell yes! I like that idea RainCaster Dec 2024 #46
Well, almost everything tsf does is BS, so maybe "Trump Noise" would be more to the point. eppur_se_muova Dec 2024 #47
Try it. Some ideas work out, some don't. It's good to find out either way. keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #48
Agree. Both forums are great ideas. Onthefly Dec 2024 #49
I like it, Earl! Silver Gaia Dec 2024 #51
The bs forum is excellent idea... Peer Gynt Dec 2024 #52
Excellent new idea. Magoo48 Dec 2024 #54
I think these are great ideas - then we'd have a Way Forward forum and AdamGG Dec 2024 #55
Great ideas. Let's do it, forthwith. (nt) Paladin Dec 2024 #56
Could "Latest Trump BS" be extended some way to incorporate the BS from Musk? Emrys Dec 2024 #57
I love it! SallyHemmings Dec 2024 #59
Love it! happybird Dec 2024 #60
My suggestion... could we have a Satire/Parody forum? WarGamer Dec 2024 #61
I think it's a great idea Lulu KC Dec 2024 #62
Like it, but enforcement could be a nightmare nt berniesandersmittens Dec 2024 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Zenlitened Dec 2024 #66
As someone who enjoys images of drumpf looking stupid... greatauntoftriplets Dec 2024 #67
I'm thinking about what Rachel says. ariadne0614 Dec 2024 #69
Exactly proud patriot Dec 2024 #71
I think a forum for Trump stuff B.See Dec 2024 #70
Perhaps also one for us Berners Be The Light Dec 2024 #72
I like it. Give it a try. c-rational Dec 2024 #73
Like the idea, but NOT seeing TSFs actual name on a forum title... consider_this Dec 2024 #74
I am still relatively new to DU, so I hesitate to have an opinion about the logistics of new forums, but... yellow dahlia Dec 2024 #75
I like it. flying rabbit Dec 2024 #76
I like the idea of both additional forums. Ms. Toad Dec 2024 #77
The ability to move threads would probably make things easier EarlG Dec 2024 #90
"Trump's Brain Farts" intrepidity Dec 2024 #78
Sounds good to me. niyad Dec 2024 #80
You're a 'go' for throttle up from where I sit. WheelWalker Dec 2024 #81
Trump BS is a 'yes' but The Way Fwd (TWF) gives me anxiety. live love laugh Dec 2024 #82
Well, the thing is... EarlG Dec 2024 #91
That makes sense but I still have my misgivings. While you're at it, live love laugh Dec 2024 #100
Thank you EarlG. Hope22 Dec 2024 #83
Let the community decide Shrek Dec 2024 #84
May I suggest instead of William769 Dec 2024 #85
wouldn't it be fantastic Kali Dec 2024 #86
Great idea. I am willing to try anything to stop the insanity. mdbl Dec 2024 #87
Sounds good. n/t defacto7 Dec 2024 #88
An excellent idea, I don't think it should be too confusing, or at least for the most part. msfiddlestix Dec 2024 #89
Trump tweeting he wants to take Greenland is news HereForTheParty Dec 2024 #92
Excllent ideas Wild blueberry Dec 2024 #93
I would try it peggysue2 Dec 2024 #94
We need a forum just for members to complain about CNN and MSNBC on air personalities ZonkerHarris Dec 2024 #95
God yes. Elessar Zappa Dec 2024 #98
We should probably add a forum for Brevet President Musk while we're at it. n/t Hugin Dec 2024 #96
K&R spanone Dec 2024 #97
Separating the BS (Being Said) from the BD (Being Done) is a great idea! HappyLarge Dec 2024 #99
I love the idea of a forum for "Latest Trump BS". RandomNumbers Dec 2024 #101
I think both are great ideas wendyb-NC Dec 2024 #102
Give it a shot, see what happens. And w/ tRUMP threatening all sorts of negative consequences for news org. (ABC for SWBTATTReg Dec 2024 #103
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