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63. Maybe Mother Nature will step in.

Mon Jan 6, 2025, 09:38 AM

Jan 2025

The DC area was blanketed by a snow storm last night. My flight to Chicago was canceled, and I’m trying to figure out how to get outta here. If enough Senators and Reps can’t make it to the Capitol today, well, gee, what a shame that would be, right?

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Congress can not count Trump's votes tomorrow, and Harris would become president. [View all] ColinC Jan 2025 OP

WISH 🙏🏼 Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #1

No wish or hope here. Just clearly what is legal. Congress certifying Trump should be considered a major illegal act. ColinC Jan 2025 #2

And if it's illegal who's going to hold them accountable? live love laugh Jan 2025 #13

If we decide that ultimately the constitution no longer matters ColinC Jan 2025 #15

Lawlessness is already happening. There's no accountability. live love laugh Jan 2025 #66

The Supreme Court Captain Zero Jan 2025 #74

Yes, he should not be certified. Clouds Passing Jan 2025 #65

That's a great idea, ForgedCrank Jan 2025 #3

"Override the voters?" Like in 2016 and 2000? ColinC Jan 2025 #6

They voted for Trump didn't they? nuxvomica Jan 2025 #32

More people voted for and wanted someone not drumpf biophile Jan 2025 #55

I agree, but it ain't gonna happen. Jeebo Jan 2025 #4

Yeah totally. Upholding the rule of law has been a pipe dream for a while now... ColinC Jan 2025 #5

Over ride the voters,...hell no.... magicarpet Jan 2025 #7

Following the constitution means "overriding the voters" ColinC Jan 2025 #8

. magicarpet Jan 2025 #9

Has Trump been convicted of insurrection or rebellion? Kaleva Jan 2025 #18

If you mean due process, the 5th amendement applies to life liberty and property ColinC Jan 2025 #19

Again, isn't a person presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law? Kaleva Jan 2025 #20

Again the stipulation for holding office is clear ColinC Jan 2025 #21

Here are your words Kaleva Jan 2025 #34

. ColinC Jan 2025 #38

So Congress has the authority to decide if he's an insurrectionist or not Kaleva Jan 2025 #45

My argument is they need to decide it. ColinC Jan 2025 #47

According to the Constitution, Congress has the sole authority to decide if they need to address it or not Kaleva Jan 2025 #50

According to the constitution, Congress has the responsibility to decide it. ColinC Jan 2025 #53

They won't for the same reason they didn't for Biden Kaleva Jan 2025 #57

For instance ColinC Jan 2025 #48

Wouldn't that half have to file a petition? Kaleva Jan 2025 #59

From your OP Kaleva Jan 2025 #60

Representative Democracy requires incumbents to exercise judgment bucolic_frolic Jan 2025 #54

Do we really want to be a pure democracy for the next 2-4 years? thatdemguy Jan 2025 #64

This is not happening Renew Deal Jan 2025 #10

If they do not remove the disability by a 2/3rds vote, it will be an illegal certification. ColinC Jan 2025 #11

Technically they are not obligated to Renew Deal Jan 2025 #22

Technically they are because the constitution requires them to. ColinC Jan 2025 #29

Only if it is determined to be illegal. Renew Deal Jan 2025 #37

Not how it works. ColinC Jan 2025 #40

And this is why this is fan fiction Renew Deal Jan 2025 #51

It's not illegal to have a different opinion than yours. That's why these are called "political questions" tritsofme Jan 2025 #39

The words of the constitution are clear. ColinC Jan 2025 #41

It is a political question for Congress to decide, disagreeing with you doesn't mean something illegal has happened. tritsofme Jan 2025 #43

Disagreement has nothing to do with anything. ColinC Jan 2025 #46

The words are clear to you personally. However this is a political, not a legal, determination to be made by Congress. tritsofme Jan 2025 #56

For all intents and purposes my use of the word "illegal" is fairly meaningless ColinC Jan 2025 #72

It really does FBaggins Jan 2025 #68

I surrender!! ColinC Jan 2025 #70

The Supreme Court already ruled that Article 3 of the 14th Amendment required Congress to pass summer_in_TX Jan 2025 #12

The article i shared explained how the scotus ruling doesnt actually apply to certification ColinC Jan 2025 #14

The article is fan fiction Renew Deal Jan 2025 #23

It is written by supreme court clerks ColinC Jan 2025 #25

And an article written by a supreme court clerk has no legal meaning thatdemguy Jan 2025 #67

It's written by two former clerks FBaggins Jan 2025 #69

... ColinC Jan 2025 #76

Sorry - I had no intent to pile on FBaggins Jan 2025 #80

No worries! ColinC Jan 2025 #81

Yeah. Morbius Jan 2025 #16

Again if congress wants to abide by the constitution and honor the will of the people they can do that ColinC Jan 2025 #26

Maybe a snowstorm will do what the Krump army failed to do. usonian Jan 2025 #17

🤔 ColinC Jan 2025 #27

Is Putin behind this proposal in order to create a civil war? MichMan Jan 2025 #24

Putin would love for us to ignore the constitution ColinC Jan 2025 #28

I think you know. Morbius Jan 2025 #31

The certification is likely going to be unanimous, or close to itactually. ColinC Jan 2025 #42

There is no "disability". SCOTUS already killed this idea. Takket Jan 2025 #36

Scotus said he can run for office ColinC Jan 2025 #49

Yes, and Dems in 2027 should push legislation & let tRump veto it; then push in 2029 and D Pres sign it Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #71

LOL! VBNMW Jan 2025 #78

Let's storm the capitol and stop the vote! Self Esteem Jan 2025 #30

This would fail but they should at least try nuxvomica Jan 2025 #33

You should probably set your eyes on something more realistic Takket Jan 2025 #35

Pipe dream. MineralMan Jan 2025 #44

If this insurrection was done by Democrats, Emile Jan 2025 #52

There's still time for him to just fucking die Orrex Jan 2025 #58

I guess the term 'domestic enemy' in the oaths of office is just there as fluff. nt Hotler Jan 2025 #61

Even if Congress disregarded all of Trump's votes, Harris would not have an electoral vote majority Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #62

That part isn't actually true FBaggins Jan 2025 #73

Maybe Mother Nature will step in. DFW Jan 2025 #63

I'm sure beds were wheeled into the congresscritters offices nitpicked Jan 2025 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jan 2025 #77

SAD VBNMW Jan 2025 #79

They won't do a damn thing to stop this train to hell Meowmee Jan 2025 #82