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24. we need, McCain for what? The president needs to please McCain, for what?

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:25 AM

Dec 2012

It's been known since Obama was elected that Kerry wanted the job. maybe he talked the President into it.

Or, as it's been the case with countless nominations that I've watched for positions from SS to the SC and more that the nominee doesn't stand up to internal scrutiny and they withdraw their initial support.

And good luck with trying to portray Kerry as some republican dream. The guy they accused of being a traitor when he ran for president? You have to be deaf, blind, and dumb to buy into that nonsense. Now republicans are stuck with someone who is not only an Obama confidante, but an independent thinker who has a very different agenda than the republicans we're supposed to believe welcome him. it hurts the brain to shut all of that off just to buy into the notion that a Kerry choice is a cave to McCain. He's got nothing. We're going to get an outstanding SoS.

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Source: Obama has chosen John Kerry as Secretary of State [View all] ProfessionalLeftist Dec 2012 OP

How nice of him to acquiesce Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #1

You took the words right outta my fingers, but Tansy_Gold Dec 2012 #2

If the Dems choose a decent candidate, we won't lose the seat. tblue37 Dec 2012 #43

I agree mikeysnot Dec 2012 #76

If the Dems choose a decent candidate AND if there's a decent Dem turnout in a special election. valerief Dec 2012 #86

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2012 #132

true, but will they? still_one Dec 2012 #102

BINGO!!!! nt Kahuna Dec 2012 #128

Kerry has been serving the country & MA for TWENTY EIGHT years as Senator. And despite being liberal KittyWampus Dec 2012 #161

Excuse me? You just made the point for me Tansy_Gold Dec 2012 #164

Bullshit NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #17

I don't get the people afraid of Scott Brown. His disgusting attitude toward Warren Jennicut Dec 2012 #21

I don't either. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #25

Scott Brown Strong Contender Jonny Dec 2012 #56

But he lost in November, after 2 years in the Senate NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #58

What do you consider "Southern Massachusetts"? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #65

Southern MA Jonny Dec 2012 #67

Christ, what wimpy and ridiculous white flag waving. The R's are in the SHIT TANK right now, and you RBInMaine Dec 2012 #124

Really? Jonny Dec 2012 #143

In that case Brown might be easier to defeat allrevvedup Dec 2012 #159

If he is so "exposed" quakerboy Dec 2012 #85

What you posted is exactly the OPPOSITE Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #22

Republicans wanted Rice. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #28

Coakley Flatpicker Dec 2012 #87

Exactly, she went on a weeks vacation FFS. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #163

Obama is allowing the republicans to call the shots????? George II Dec 2012 #89

Coakley lost because she literally went on a 6 day vacation instead of campaigning. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #162

as a resident of MA, I say wovenpaint Dec 2012 #46

You assume you know enough of the very specific details to be able to define "acquiesce" patrice Dec 2012 #93

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #120

Don't go & get yourself alerted on. I know the arrogance is astounding isn't it. *IRRATIONAL* patrice Dec 2012 #125

How nice of you to report gossips. Mass Dec 2012 #3

Welcome back to the Senate, Senator Pink Leather Shorts. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #4

So, waving the white flag already are you? Typical. Just frigging typical ultra left jelly spine. RBInMaine Dec 2012 #122

Banks are going to spend whatever it takes to get Brown back in to counter Warren. onehandle Dec 2012 #141

I believe this was the plan all along. Kerry does deserve this, but I will miss juajen Dec 2012 #5

I agree, Kerry deserves it democrattotheend Dec 2012 #8

plus heaven05 Dec 2012 #53

Thanks for saying that., Mass Dec 2012 #9

I agree with you, even though this post is 4th in line to Pres. wisteria Dec 2012 #144

If this was the plan all along, then why let Susan Rice get fucked over by John McCain for a month? DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #11

How was PBO supposed to keep mccain and company off the airwaves with their Kahuna Dec 2012 #139

They made it more difficult for the President to make his choice. wisteria Dec 2012 #145

I don't think that's the issue DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #148

I agree. But let's not just jump at an unsubstantiated report. Texin Dec 2012 #47

Why? Are you saying a woman is superior? dbackjon Dec 2012 #60

I think so too. Kerry was the obvious best choice. If not for Hillary, he would likely Kahuna Dec 2012 #138

That is the way I felt too. n/t wisteria Dec 2012 #146

Scott Brown has a giant NRA problem now alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #6

Ah, good point davidpdx Dec 2012 #160

Hopefully our Republican friends have a whole slate of acceptable nominees for the cabinet DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #7

so you're selling the idea that republicans support Kerry? bigtree Dec 2012 #14

Whatever the actual case may be DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #19

you know, most folks can see past all of the insider garble bigtree Dec 2012 #26

I'm sure some people will see it the way you say. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #35

Obama heaven05 Dec 2012 #55

No -- connecticut yankee Dec 2012 #30

they can dream bigtree Dec 2012 #41

Republicans wanted him to pick Rice. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #20

Then you have her say on day one that she's not interested in the job DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #23

Why should that be said, when it's clear she was? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #31

If you know that you are not ready to take on a confirmation fight DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #33

And what if Obama was ready to fight, NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #34

I guess I'm of the belief that the President of the United States gets what he wants DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #36

Really? So you believe NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #38

Gotta say thanks to you, NYC L! I Cha Dec 2012 #69

That's what I thought, also. Whether it's correct or not, remains to be seen KoKo Dec 2012 #27

Yep. No way to know for sure, but it is classic Repub M.O. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #32

"remains to be seen" & that IS the way everything really is; do the best you can & be ready to adapt patrice Dec 2012 #115

Funny how many DU-ers just want to forget about OILOILOILOILOILOILOILOILOILOILOILOIL patrice Dec 2012 #108

Christ, do we really need the leftwing version of the Tea Party on this forum? Good grief. RBInMaine Dec 2012 #121

john mccain has chosen john kerry as sos spanone Dec 2012 #10

all that does is make you look like the dupe bigtree Dec 2012 #12

Appearances have meaning in politics DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #15

we need, McCain for what? The president needs to please McCain, for what? bigtree Dec 2012 #24

I'm not saying that Kerry is a bad choice DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #29

again, it's an insider load of garble that gets one to that conclusion bigtree Dec 2012 #39

Why does it appear to you that Rice was the president's choice? bornskeptic Dec 2012 #63

We sjhould have encouraged him to pick someone else to keep the seat, Left Coast2020 Dec 2012 #131

Kerry was always the 1st choice. Kerry was sent on more diplomatic missions the last 3 years than blm Dec 2012 #66

I agree with you on choice. I am not sure about Rice being a full out NEOCON though. wisteria Dec 2012 #73

well, it would appear that i disagree with you. at least i didn't shit in your nest. spanone Dec 2012 #16

Damn....I was thinking the same thing Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #40

Tell me why everyone says "Don't trust politicians" & then we're supposed to believe McCain on this. patrice Dec 2012 #95

He only thinks he did. Being that JK is and always has been the best, most obvious choice.. Kahuna Dec 2012 #137

Damn it all to hell. graywarrior Dec 2012 #13

... politicasista Dec 2012 #72

PLEASE read this sketch of the intelligence issues surrounding Rice, a SERIAL War Supporter, ... patrice Dec 2012 #104

Thanks! graywarrior Dec 2012 #113

My second husband was a high placed corporate attorney. This stuff has a familiar ring to it. Hugs!! patrice Dec 2012 #117

I only get mad a republicans graywarrior Dec 2012 #130

It's hard to tear my eyes away from your posts; your cat is enchanting! nt patrice Dec 2012 #147

Maybe I should become one. graywarrior Dec 2012 #153

love your cat pictures! Deep13 Dec 2012 #107

Yeah, he is. He showed his true self and it was ugly. graywarrior Dec 2012 #112

Here we go again (in Mass.), LOL! reformist2 Dec 2012 #18

I'm sure that Senator Kerry will make an outstanding Secretary of State tularetom Dec 2012 #37

Living in Arizona, I could not agree more! TM99 Dec 2012 #50

Chuck Hagel as Secy of Defense? What is wrong with Obama? loudsue Dec 2012 #42

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #52

Oh, don't those Lefties just make your fucking skin crawl, tho? Poll_Blind Dec 2012 #54

Two words. Robert Gates. nt Kahuna Dec 2012 #140

I so hate the Republicans picking our SoS...nt fadedrose Dec 2012 #44

Did you read this sketch of the intelligence issues surrounding RICE? patrice Dec 2012 #98

Isn't this what all of the Repukes wanted? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #45

PLEASE give me one good goddamned reason we should believe anything they say about what they want, patrice Dec 2012 #101

This doesn't mean he will be confirmed. alfredo Dec 2012 #48

You have to be kidding. He is a Senator, and the Senate is always quick to confirm one of their own. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #49

I don't trust McConnell and his toadies. alfredo Dec 2012 #62

his confirmation opens the gates for another GOP senator from Mass. 0rganism Dec 2012 #68

Many are still angry at his stand on Vietnam and his investigation into Iran-Contra. alfredo Dec 2012 #71

damn dlwickham Dec 2012 #51

Are you serious?... SidDithers Dec 2012 #57

And a jury voted to leave this shit ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #64

Which post made you unhappy? The one suggesting Huntsman, or Sid's post? stevenleser Dec 2012 #74

The one suggesting Huntsman ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #91

I'll give you the explanation: DOWNWARD PRESSURE ON AMERICAN WAGES IS JUST FINE with some DU-ers. patrice Dec 2012 #126

huntsman? DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #90

Thanks for putting Scott Brown back in the Senate dbackjon Dec 2012 #59

not going to happen nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #106

Might have been his first choice all along union_maid Dec 2012 #61

I read that he was genuinely conflicted between the two democrattotheend Dec 2012 #92

Another positive Kerry thread turned into a flamewar politicasista Dec 2012 #70

Crap..... socalgal58 Dec 2012 #75

"I really didn't want Rice as SOS either... ProSense Dec 2012 #77

Alea iacta est AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #78

Oh good.... musical_soul Dec 2012 #79

Noooooooo!!!!! kamron Dec 2012 #80

rock n' roll flamingdem Dec 2012 #81

Well at least he chose a Democrat. forestpath Dec 2012 #82

It's a win-win for the corporate team. woo me with science Dec 2012 #83

Like Rice, doesn't Kerry have huge sums of money invested in the Keystone XL pipeline? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #84

Really? I dont know, but I am sure you have at least a proof for this statement. Mass Dec 2012 #149

Why do we democrats take a winning poker hand and toss four and keep one. Makes no sense. demosincebirth Dec 2012 #88

Note all of the DU-ers supporting RICE/American Excepionalism/WAR & DIRTY OIL/XL Pipeline patrice Dec 2012 #94

yeah, the pipeline turned me against her. Deep13 Dec 2012 #109

I know some VERY fine young Occupiers who are STRONGLY set against that pipeline. I hope VERY patrice Dec 2012 #118

+1 Deep13 Dec 2012 #123

Funny how we're suddenly supposed to believe every word out of McCain's mouth. wow. DU, just wow. patrice Dec 2012 #96

I can't make out what you are talking about with these two posts. nt stevenleser Dec 2012 #97

We're supposed to believe McCain the chameleon when he says he's against Rice for SoS? Why? patrice Dec 2012 #99

So, we should be happy that Rice is out and Kerry is in. That is your contention? stevenleser Dec 2012 #114

That's my thinking. I'm trying not to be biased about OIL WARS, but I am, so you'll have to take patrice Dec 2012 #119

Does anyone in this thread remember a little thing from '04 called the Apollo Alliance? patrice Dec 2012 #100

A good choice I think rl6214 Dec 2012 #103

good choice. Deep13 Dec 2012 #105

Glad to hear that from a Baystater democrattotheend Dec 2012 #110

born in Worcester, MA, grew up in Leicester. Deep13 Dec 2012 #116

Why the fuck did we just bother having an election? Smilo Dec 2012 #111

Susan Rice is a SERIAL OIL WAR SUPPORTER. Please consider intelligence issues that we saw patrice Dec 2012 #127

Kerry is going to be the sec of state because he is one underthematrix Dec 2012 #129

What the hell is going on in here. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #133

So Kerry, the guy most of us voted for POTUS in 2004, the guy who introduced Obama.. Kahuna Dec 2012 #136

I think you misread AC's post. JK IS the tblue37 Dec 2012 #152

Exactly. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #154

Whoops! I stand corrected. So sorry, AC. I thought AC was Kahuna Dec 2012 #155

Kerry is an excellent choice Firebrand Gary Dec 2012 #134

Kerry is an excellent choice (not Kerrey). Mass Dec 2012 #150

It'll be nice to have Warren as the senior Senator from Massachusetts. Orrex Dec 2012 #135

Message to Nancy P and all of you other "girls" Tutonic Dec 2012 #142

I'm a Kerry fan and think he'll be a great SOS....BUT vi5 Dec 2012 #151

Well Scott Brown has an "A" Rating from the NRA.. that he'll, no doubt, Cha Dec 2012 #156

"A Secretary John Kerry would elevate climate issues" Cha Dec 2012 #157

Fine pick libodem Dec 2012 #158