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Honeycombe8

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21. I think the presence of guns IS a deterrent. They specifically choose places where they know
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:59 AM
Dec 2012

the victims will not have guns. They're not brave. They're cowards.

Even the soldier who shot his comrades knew they weren't allowed to have loaded guns in that area.

The mall shooter knew shoppers wouldn't be armed. Most people aren't.

They don't go to, say, gun shows, to kill lots of people, since they know they'd be shot dead before they had a chance to kill very many.

There's a reason that marshal's hired to sit incognito on airplanes are armed. When faced with an armed, evil person, it is most effective to have an armed person to deal with him. You're limited otherwise, as we've seen.

But in a school...it seems particularly dangerous to have loaded weapons around. They'd have to be locked up, which makes them almost useless. And the likelihood of a child getting injured by the gun w/o a shooter around is more likely than a mass murderer coming in, IMO.

But if someone wants to kill a lot of people in a free society, there's not much that can be done about it. Some gun restrictions would be helpful (and many states have some)), though, to keep the incidents down, or the # of victims down.

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Essentially the same arguments are being made in the DU gungeon. morningfog Dec 2012 #1
I would not be surprised if the same person who wrote that posts in our gungeon Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #5
oh, not just the gungeon etherealtruth Dec 2012 #6
You went to the gungeon? Walk away Dec 2012 #7
Oh a few of them did come to the surface Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #12
That is one sick group of people! nt Walk away Dec 2012 #31
I love how they open by claiming liberals are the ones who politicize the issue... Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #2
The first comment was spot on DainBramaged Dec 2012 #4
I think it's more accurate to say the shooter was responsible abetted by the gunsuckers. byeya Dec 2012 #16
It's been said before. One of the teachers had a gun. Walk away Dec 2012 #3
Here is the canned response to that: morningfog Dec 2012 #8
She wasn't a teacher at that school. She didn't work there. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #9
"What's the Matter With Kansas?" What's your point? Walk away Dec 2012 #28
Why are you addressing me like that? proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #29
It's the cowboy myth that saturates this country DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #10
I think there are instances where the public having guns would save lives.... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #15
I would like a news magazine to sponsor exboyfil Dec 2012 #17
I think the presence of guns IS a deterrent. They specifically choose places where they know Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #21
Sorry, I don't believe a word of that. A bunch of yahoos playing cowboy will just make things worse. Hoyt Dec 2012 #18
In what way? There are 280 million guns in the country. There's no way to round those up... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #24
No - How about all those self-proclaimed "responsible, law-abiding gun owners" start acting like it. Hoyt Dec 2012 #25
Responsible gun owners are not against gun restrictions. That you think so... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #27
Wrong. Not only do I know gun culture, I know our Democratic gungeoneers well too. Hoyt Dec 2012 #30
FUCK the teaparty nation....TWICE spanone Dec 2012 #11
And, as liberals, we'll pause and consider the other side's point and our measure of culpability Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #13
Yes. Although, I'm for gun control that the gun nutz/lovers view as "irrational." Hoyt Dec 2012 #19
That's not a tall hurdle. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #23
True. They freak over any type of control proposal. Hoyt Dec 2012 #26
Wingers will always telegraph what they're about to do by accusing liberals of doing it MrScorpio Dec 2012 #14
+1 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #33
Ermm.. ananda Dec 2012 #20
The town's name is Newtown, not Newton. lunatica Dec 2012 #22
Thanks for the alert on this, Dain.. Permanut Dec 2012 #32
Every time I click on an FR link, I regret it. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #34
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