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TorchTheWitch

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62. the father isn't dead and wasn't in the same city

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:02 PM

Dec 2012

Ryan lives in NJ while the father (Peter) lives in Stamford, CT. Apparently, Peter was also taken in for questioning but more likely for background info on the shooter. The parents have been divorced for several years, and Adam (the shooter) lived with the mother. According to Ryan, the two brothers have been estranged for several years. I'm guessing that Ryan was also estranged from his mother and the estrangement likely came with the divorce with Ryan going to live with the father. Adam shot the mother in the home and then proceeded to the school where he went on his rampage.

There's been a ridiculous amount of misinformation by the tv talkers. Now they're saying that Adam didn't purchase any weapons and they belonged to the mother. Yet another example is that some tv talkers say were told by police that Ryan's ID was found on Adam's body which is why they thought Ryan was the shooter, but others say that the mistake in names was because some police spokesperson mistakenly transposed the first names of the brothers to the media.

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it sucks that innocent brother was handcuffed and perp walked by cops [View all] Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 OP

Not as much as it sucked being in the kindergarten class. we can do it Dec 2012 #1

Or being thrown into a volcano... cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #3

Hows the cop donco Dec 2012 #11

Ever hear of 'false arrest'? What was the probable cause here? - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #65

The fact that he was a) in New Jersey and b) alive... regnaD kciN Dec 2012 #130

I don't blame him or the police for doing their job, especially after what happened. we can do it Dec 2012 #24

Sociopaths are not mentally ill obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #27

If I'm the brother here's what I'm upset about (and in what order) Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #52

the father isn't dead and wasn't in the same city TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #62

Wait... The Dad is dead? Texasgal Dec 2012 #79

It is not that easy to commit somebody, and she probably feared for her life. juajen Dec 2012 #39

"she probably feared for her life" StarryNite Dec 2012 #81

It sounds like everyone knew the shooter needed help Patiod Dec 2012 #58

What do you do? Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #124

Yes, but he's not the one who shot them. liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #12

They caught their mistake very quickly lunatica Dec 2012 #29

Strawman. n/t vaberella Dec 2012 #100

the kid lost his mom & brother, was id'd as the shooter, and now has to cope with the guilt of HiPointDem Dec 2012 #125

Why did he have his brother's ID on him? WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #2

Set him up? I don't know. The brother said he hadn't spoken with the shooter since 2010... Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #4

Interesting. I missed that part... WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #14

That thought occurred to me, too TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #63

Probably swiped it without telling his brother so he could buy booze. Thegonagle Dec 2012 #115

Here is the thing though... Sissyk Dec 2012 #118

Perhaps he took his brother's ID in 2010 to purchase alcohol, JimDandy Dec 2012 #116

it could have been an old ID he swiped bettyellen Dec 2012 #5

Who had whose ID? gateley Dec 2012 #6

Shooter had brother's ID n/t godai Dec 2012 #10

Ok - thanks. gateley Dec 2012 #18

Some people keep their old IDs FunkyLeprechaun Dec 2012 #90

I keep all my ID's I recently found my old Virgin Megastore ID where I worked when I was 19. vaberella Dec 2012 #101

They looked like they were being pretty gentle with him. Probably gateley Dec 2012 #7

That's actually breaking the law though. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #56

you were arrested for something your sibling did? CreekDog Dec 2012 #142

Yes. That's exactly what I said. gateley Dec 2012 #149

So what? randome Dec 2012 #8

yeah, for many minorites it's a part of life JI7 Dec 2012 #21

Harsh words, arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #23

"this guy" is also a victim and his family was also detroyed obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #28

I have tons of compassion for this guy and his family. randome Dec 2012 #42

+1 we can do it Dec 2012 #43

Please say where I said the cops shouldn't ahve checked him out? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #49

well i'm not surprised you think he deserved to be arrested CreekDog Dec 2012 #143

Since they knew they had the shooter pnwmom Dec 2012 #122

Early reports were that the car had NJ plates. FarCenter Dec 2012 #9

They only took him in to question him.... RichGirl Dec 2012 #13

This young man does deserve our sympathy -- HE IS ALSO A VICTIM obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #30

You are not the only one noticing it. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #57

Yes. it's different than anything I've seen here before.n/t EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #88

I agree. He is just as innocent as any of the other adults touched by this. nt pnwmom Dec 2012 #119

i agree and it bothers me that he was treated as the criminal here CreekDog Dec 2012 #146

Bullshit. They handcuffed him and did it on national television. - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #66

they cuffed him CreekDog Dec 2012 #145

I feel bad for him. What a loss for him too, today. TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #15

I do too. Another victim of this tragedy arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #22

It certainly does. BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #16

He probably is the best one to explain what went on in that household when Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #17

Yes. He and the father may be the only people alive who can shed much light on it. slackmaster Dec 2012 #26

The children took his Mom's time....OR...people that he thought his Mom cared for Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #34

We'll know more in the coming days. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #45

I saw a man on TV (ha! but supposedly he's FBI, studied mass killers)...he said Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #47

I've watched, with interest, how the anti-bullying campaign has spread across the school system. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #53

Apparently the Lanza family is a family of privilege TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #70

The mother had no connection to the school oberliner Dec 2012 #104

The mom had nothing to do with those children oberliner Dec 2012 #105

i don't see why it sucks considering all that has happened JI7 Dec 2012 #19

The next time you're cuffed and put into a police car for a crime you didn't commit.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #64

+1. And on national TV, no less. Absolutely disgusting - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #67

it happens all the time, you know when kids are killed the parents are the first ones JI7 Dec 2012 #98

The brother lived a couple of hours away from the scene of the shooting... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #107

I'm sure it was awful, but considering the other events of the day, Chemisse Dec 2012 #106

"Not such a big deal" to you, but to him I bet it's a nightmare.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #132

Well we can opin all we want, but only he knows how he felt. Chemisse Dec 2012 #135

I guess you're "opining", too. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #136

I mostly just said how I would feel, but perhaps I opined a bit. Chemisse Dec 2012 #138

Yes, that young man's world just shattered today. So many peoples' did. nolabear Dec 2012 #20

I feel very, very sorry for that young man slackmaster Dec 2012 #25

Yes, complete with his brother setting him up obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #32

It's standard procedure, and understandable. His ID was on the dead shooter.... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #31

It wasn't merely a 'shame' that it was televised. It was absolutely fucking disgusting and, if coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #68

The law enforcement seems to have done an outstanding job so far, including picking up the brother Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #78

Your post offers a perfect example of the fellating of law enforcement to which my coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #95

As I said, every law enforcement dept has a standard procedure. Period. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #117

EPIC FAIL. It is a HUGE deal, seriously. It's because of people like you that there's coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #131

That's what I figured too. The cop patted him on the shoulder probably for the cameras underpants Dec 2012 #71

I doubt it. If the brother had turned out to be connected... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #80

Yes it does etherealtruth Dec 2012 #33

It's always easy to see things like that in hindsight. they found the brother's ID. raccoon Dec 2012 #35

He shouldn't have been perp walked -- that's the problem obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #37

He couldn't have been the shooter, because the shooter was dead Jamastiene Dec 2012 #87

Too bad! That's pretty much the least of his and others' worries today. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #36

He is also a victim -- I don't get this attitude obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #40

The police at the time did not have your hindsight. Get it, now? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #46

NOT ONCE have I said the cops shouldn't have checked him out obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #48

And the particular part of the "SCENE" where they got that ID Jamastiene Dec 2012 #92

sorry but i feel no sorrow for ceeRoy Dec 2012 #38

He is a VICTIM -- just wow obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #41

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #72

I think posters are in some fog of anger right now Union Scribe Dec 2012 #85

This post has helped me understand it better. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #133

I have to agree with you 2naSalit Dec 2012 #114

He lost his mother and his brother slackmaster Dec 2012 #51

He's a victim in this too. vaberella Dec 2012 #102

He lost his brother and his mother Renew Deal Dec 2012 #127

I would imagine his mother will be needing funeral arrangements Jamastiene Dec 2012 #134

Funeral Arrangements Are Being Made For Twenty Dead Childen. Paladin Dec 2012 #44

Compassionate people can feel compassion for ALL teh victims obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #50

compassionate people can prioritize Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #54

There people aren't worth arguing with. Most normal people understand that having your face Puregonzo1188 Dec 2012 #61

Agreed. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #94

+1 - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #75

If it's even remotely possible for you to do so, put yourself in that man's.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #77

I feel sorry for him, but not because the police took him in democrattotheend Dec 2012 #93

I thought so too. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #55

Is this the same guy who was on Facebook saying "It wasn't me"? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #59

Yes, it is. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #86

was he his brother's keeper? Maybe Huckabee can shed some light on the issue ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2012 #60

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #69

Just read this thread. EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #91

+1 MadrasT Dec 2012 #73

He'll get over it (THE PERP WALK) RetroLounge Dec 2012 #74

Wow, of all the insensitive posts I've seen on this thread, this one coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #76

Really, the PERP WALK is what he'll have problems with? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #84

Perp walking him added to his misery Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #96

"it sucks that innocent brother was handcuffed and perp walked by cops" RetroLounge Dec 2012 #109

You don't even have the decency to apologize for your coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #97

Decency? You might want to go reread a little. RetroLounge Dec 2012 #111

Yes, I am Bill Frist! RetroLounge Dec 2012 #112

His mother was murdered yesterday, His brother killed himself and the family name is forever linked underpants Dec 2012 #82

He'll get over THE PERP WALK RetroLounge Dec 2012 #83

Blame the media for that part of it. SoCalDem Dec 2012 #89

This!! Sissyk Dec 2012 #123

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Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #108

Awful lot of people had reading problems RetroLounge Dec 2012 #110

Will he "get over" the murder of his mother? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #120

Christ, can no one read? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #126

I understood exactly what you meant and Son of Gob Dec 2012 #144

THank you RetroLounge Dec 2012 #147

He also lost his mom and brother in addition to having his name ruined. nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #121

No Shit???? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #128

Exactly. He was incorrectly identified in the whole of the incident and victimized. n/t vaberella Dec 2012 #99

Absolutely. That is just wrong. David__77 Dec 2012 #113

I don't think we've been told the whole story about that. Warpy Dec 2012 #129

I remember early reports saying there could have been a 2nd shooter Rex Dec 2012 #137

but they located him at work in another city. Clearly he wasn't this "other shooter" Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #139

Were the cities close to each other? Rex Dec 2012 #140

Not really. Hoboken is a 90 minute drive from Fairfield County on a good day. name not needed Dec 2012 #141

Thanks, then their behavior does seem strange. Rex Dec 2012 #148