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Showing Original Post only (View all)Lawsuit: Allstate used GasBuddy and other apps to quietly track driving behavior [View all]
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/01/allstate-sued-for-allegedly-tracking-drivers-behavior-through-third-party-apps/Texas has sued insurance provider Allstate, alleging that the firm and its data broker subsidiary used data from apps like GasBuddy, Routely, and Life360 to quietly track drivers and adjust or cancel their policies.
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According to Texas' complaint (PDF), the data collected included "a phone's geolocation data, accelerometer data, magnetometer data, and gyroscopic data, which monitors details such as the phone's altitude, longitude, latitude, bearing, GPS time, speed, and accuracy."
With that dataplus, in some cases, data from connected vehiclesAllstate could see when, how far, and for how long someone was driving, along with "hard braking events" and "whether a consumer picked up or opened their phone while traveling at certain speeds," according to the complaint.
Texas' lawsuit claims that Arity incentivizedthrough "generous bonus incentives"apps like GasBuddy, a gas price-tracking app, and Life360, which is intended to keep tabs on family members' location, to "increas[e] the size of their dataset." Under their agreements with app makers, Arity had "varying levels of control over the privacy disclosures and consent language" shown to app users, according to the complaint.
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According to Texas' complaint (PDF), the data collected included "a phone's geolocation data, accelerometer data, magnetometer data, and gyroscopic data, which monitors details such as the phone's altitude, longitude, latitude, bearing, GPS time, speed, and accuracy."
With that dataplus, in some cases, data from connected vehiclesAllstate could see when, how far, and for how long someone was driving, along with "hard braking events" and "whether a consumer picked up or opened their phone while traveling at certain speeds," according to the complaint.
Texas' lawsuit claims that Arity incentivizedthrough "generous bonus incentives"apps like GasBuddy, a gas price-tracking app, and Life360, which is intended to keep tabs on family members' location, to "increas[e] the size of their dataset." Under their agreements with app makers, Arity had "varying levels of control over the privacy disclosures and consent language" shown to app users, according to the complaint.
The suit also cites Allstate as gathering direct car use data from Toyota, Lexus, Mazda, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Maserati, and Ram vehicles.
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Seems like the bigger part of the story is at the bottom. You can uninstall GasBuddy from your phone but finding and buying a new car that doesn't track you is a bigger hassle.
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usonian
Jan 2025
OP
If you have location services turned off, telecoms still maintain records of tower pings.
LeftInTX
Jan 2025
#22
I'm pretty sure GPS is built into phones. That's how Google maps works out of the box.
LeftInTX
Jan 2025
#24
Apparently only some car makers allow insurance companies to access vehicle data.
patphil
Jan 2025
#3
Fuck that! This is all about your car spying on you and the manufacturers selling that info off.
TheBlackAdder
Jan 2025
#4
Could it tell if the policy-holder was a passenger in someone else's vehicle, or a passenger in *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 2025
#10
Probably, but would not be able to tell if someone else was driving while customer using phone as passenger. . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#14