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usonian

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Tue Jan 14, 2025, 02:17 PM Jan 2025

Lawsuit: Allstate used GasBuddy and other apps to quietly track driving behavior [View all]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/01/allstate-sued-for-allegedly-tracking-drivers-behavior-through-third-party-apps/

Texas has sued insurance provider Allstate, alleging that the firm and its data broker subsidiary used data from apps like GasBuddy, Routely, and Life360 to quietly track drivers and adjust or cancel their policies.



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According to Texas' complaint (PDF), the data collected included "a phone's geolocation data, accelerometer data, magnetometer data, and gyroscopic data, which monitors details such as the phone's altitude, longitude, latitude, bearing, GPS time, speed, and accuracy."

With that data—plus, in some cases, data from connected vehicles—Allstate could see when, how far, and for how long someone was driving, along with "hard braking events" and "whether a consumer picked up or opened their phone while traveling at certain speeds," according to the complaint.

Texas' lawsuit claims that Arity incentivized—through "generous bonus incentives"—apps like GasBuddy, a gas price-tracking app, and Life360, which is intended to keep tabs on family members' location, to "increas[e] the size of their dataset." Under their agreements with app makers, Arity had "varying levels of control over the privacy disclosures and consent language" shown to app users, according to the complaint.



The suit also cites Allstate as gathering direct car use data from Toyota, Lexus, Mazda, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Maserati, and Ram vehicles.

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Pithy response:

Seems like the bigger part of the story is at the bottom. You can uninstall GasBuddy from your phone but finding and buying a new car that doesn't track you is a bigger hassle.


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2009 car XanaDUer2 Jan 2025 #1
I guess they could track me with my phone, House of Roberts Jan 2025 #2
You are unlikely to be taking a walk on a highway. usonian Jan 2025 #6
Doesn't One Have To Have Location Turned On? ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #11
You can be tracked by cell tower/home IP usonian Jan 2025 #12
Yeah, I Guess I Knew That ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #13
If you have location services turned off, telecoms still maintain records of tower pings. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #22
Learned Something New ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #23
I'm pretty sure GPS is built into phones. That's how Google maps works out of the box. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #24
I Was Wondering If... ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #25
All I know, is when I open maps, I see a location pin LeftInTX Jan 2025 #26
I Don't See Said Pin ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #27
Yes, there is an On//Off. I believe the default is Off LeftInTX Jan 2025 #18
So I'm riding in a car someone else is driving, House of Roberts Jan 2025 #17
Listening? usonian Jan 2025 #19
Apparently only some car makers allow insurance companies to access vehicle data. patphil Jan 2025 #3
I wonder if Musk's Starlink sells off the Subaru data. TheBlackAdder Jan 2025 #5
They are diffrrent, same name. usonian Jan 2025 #7
Cool, thanks. I just assumed due to trademark issues. TheBlackAdder Jan 2025 #15
Then you're not driving a steak house. usonian Jan 2025 #16
Please Subaru do! Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #28
I would think that anything that goes through Starlink is fair game for Musk. patphil Jan 2025 #9
Fuck that! This is all about your car spying on you and the manufacturers selling that info off. TheBlackAdder Jan 2025 #4
Just bought a Toyota. maxsolomon Jan 2025 #8
Could it tell if the policy-holder was a passenger in someone else's vehicle, or a passenger in * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #10
Probably, but would not be able to tell if someone else was driving while customer using phone as passenger. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #14
Who could not see this coming RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2025 #20
So, I'm reading the complaint. I'm thinking this applies to consumers who used certain apps. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #21
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