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LeftInTX

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22. If you have location services turned off, telecoms still maintain records of tower pings.
Tue Jan 14, 2025, 05:08 PM
Jan 2025
An insurance company would not have that access to pings. Law enforcement can estimate locations of a defendant or victim by subpoenaing records from telecoms (AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile etc) (This was used in the Idaho murder case)

This suit is about people who signed up for location services using apps other than Allstate's: Gas Buddy, Life360 (A family tracking app) etc.

It also about some of the location services that are installed in some vehicles. Toyota, Lexus,
Mazda, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Maserati, and Ram are named.

I believe the location services in the apps are satellite based, as opposed to pings which are cell plan based. Satellites use latitude/longitude as opposed to tower pings. So they are more accurate.

I believe some of the J6 rioters had their phones in airplane mode. Geofencing, which is a more advanced way of tracking, was then used. Airplane mode also uses satellite. Airplane mode does not cell tower pings.


Yes, a phone can be tracked while in airplane mode if GPS is enabled. Airplane mode turns off cellular data and Wi-Fi, but it doesn't turn off GPS. GPS uses satellites to determine a phone's location, which can still work even when airplane mode is on.
https://www.wikihow.com/Does-Airplane-Mode-Turn-Off-Location



Maps and geolocation work in airplane mode! I use MiniVAN (Democratic Party app) in airplane mode all the time. MiniVAN relies on geolocation and maps. Airplane mode conserves battery use and that's the main reason I use airplane plane

https://www.ngpvan.com/blog/canvassing-with-minivan/

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2009 car XanaDUer2 Jan 2025 #1
I guess they could track me with my phone, House of Roberts Jan 2025 #2
You are unlikely to be taking a walk on a highway. usonian Jan 2025 #6
Doesn't One Have To Have Location Turned On? ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #11
You can be tracked by cell tower/home IP usonian Jan 2025 #12
Yeah, I Guess I Knew That ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #13
If you have location services turned off, telecoms still maintain records of tower pings. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #22
Learned Something New ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #23
I'm pretty sure GPS is built into phones. That's how Google maps works out of the box. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #24
I Was Wondering If... ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #25
All I know, is when I open maps, I see a location pin LeftInTX Jan 2025 #26
I Don't See Said Pin ProfessorGAC Jan 2025 #27
Yes, there is an On//Off. I believe the default is Off LeftInTX Jan 2025 #18
So I'm riding in a car someone else is driving, House of Roberts Jan 2025 #17
Listening? usonian Jan 2025 #19
Apparently only some car makers allow insurance companies to access vehicle data. patphil Jan 2025 #3
I wonder if Musk's Starlink sells off the Subaru data. TheBlackAdder Jan 2025 #5
They are diffrrent, same name. usonian Jan 2025 #7
Cool, thanks. I just assumed due to trademark issues. TheBlackAdder Jan 2025 #15
Then you're not driving a steak house. usonian Jan 2025 #16
Please Subaru do! Bluethroughu Feb 2025 #28
I would think that anything that goes through Starlink is fair game for Musk. patphil Jan 2025 #9
Fuck that! This is all about your car spying on you and the manufacturers selling that info off. TheBlackAdder Jan 2025 #4
Just bought a Toyota. maxsolomon Jan 2025 #8
Could it tell if the policy-holder was a passenger in someone else's vehicle, or a passenger in * Oopsie Daisy Jan 2025 #10
Probably, but would not be able to tell if someone else was driving while customer using phone as passenger. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2025 #14
Who could not see this coming RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2025 #20
So, I'm reading the complaint. I'm thinking this applies to consumers who used certain apps. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #21
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