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wickerwoman

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18. Also the rights of adult mentally-ill people

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 02:38 PM

Dec 2012

to resist treatment and medication.

Bill Gates couldn't legally force his mentally ill child to seek or accept treatment with the current laws we have.

Not saying that those rights should be overturned. It's a complex issue. But one that we clearly need to keep examining.

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Anyone shocked that the shooter's mother was a rich gun fantatic and not a teacher? [View all] senseandsensibility Dec 2012 OP

What makes you think she was rich? Even if Mom had been a teacher.... Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #1

Links all over DU about her 240,000 year alimony payment senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #3

Oh, I hadn't read that. Wonder why she was working as a helper in a school? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #7

Not confirmed anywhere that she had any connection with any school senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #13

maybe because she wanted to TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #25

A lot of retired people find great Ilsa Dec 2012 #26

$260,000 yearly alimony riverwalker Dec 2012 #8

Did you not see her house? WinkyDink Dec 2012 #38

They showed her massive house in a tony sufrommich Dec 2012 #2

"Better access" doesn't necessarily mean "more affordable." Brickbat Dec 2012 #6

Also the rights of adult mentally-ill people wickerwoman Dec 2012 #18

Exactly. There are no easy answers, but if people don't want to talk about gun control, they'd do Brickbat Dec 2012 #22

Well said. A Major Issue, probably applies here. nt Ilsa Dec 2012 #27

Not true in Connecticut, but you must pursue it in court, real hard, Throckmorton Dec 2012 #44

Jesus. The shooter's DEAD mother, you mean? Shot by her own flesh and blood? Bicoastal Dec 2012 #4

Facts matter. senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #9

No, BLAME matters. You're angry and you're looking for individuals to blame. Bicoastal Dec 2012 #16

Facts matter. senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #17

"You can characterize it any way you want." Bicoastal Dec 2012 #23

Facts are really not your strong point, are they? senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #29

What's the difference between CokeMachine Dec 2012 #40

Exactly. The facts really do matter. Coyotl Dec 2012 #30

your friend is ignorant, call her out too. anyone could be the mom of a sick murderer. bettyellen Dec 2012 #33

Sadly, true etherealtruth Dec 2012 #36

Bought and trained son to use the weapons that killed her... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #10

The shooter was a twenty year old who lived at home and was not enrolled in college alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #12

The very least would be locked up marlakay Dec 2012 #32

SHe's the one who took him to the range to shoot malaise Dec 2012 #15

If she was the legal owner of those guns then she had a personal responsibility to kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #24

In some cases, I suspect "locking them up" Ilsa Dec 2012 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Horse with no Name Dec 2012 #5

Agreed. senseandsensibility Dec 2012 #11

The average person has one testicle and one enlarged, dollopy breast slackmaster Dec 2012 #14

I haven't heard any of the speculation r/t etherealtruth Dec 2012 #19

I am not at all suprised that she was a gun nut. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #20

This tragedy is going to challenge many of the false EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #21

spree, not serial killer. very different things. bettyellen Dec 2012 #34

Not particularly. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #31

Not a patsy. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #39

So far we don't have a motive allrevvedup Dec 2012 #42

reality comes slowly... dawnie51 Dec 2012 #35

Is this the whole family jsr Dec 2012 #37

Was she really a "gun fanatic" or were they left behind when her ex-husband left the house?.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #41

Where does it say she was not a teacher and/or was not the teacher of that kindergarten class?.. truth2power Dec 2012 #43

No connection at all. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #45

Thanks. n/t truth2power Dec 2012 #46