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Scrivener7

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34. And who says that won't change next week?

Reply to LeftInTX (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 21, 2025, 06:11 PM

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Ending birthright citizenship would make almost EVERY ONE OF US an illegal alien. [View all] Scrivener7 Jan 2025 OP

I believe it applies to those here unlawfully osteopath6 Jan 2025 #1

Back in the day, who came over "lawfully." Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #4

ex post facto. NutmegYankee Jan 2025 #15

Who says? Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #17

You literally have objective quality evidence if you have a birth certificate NutmegYankee Jan 2025 #22

My point is that settled law means nothing anymore. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #44

It seems the rules are "sort of" applying osteopath6 Jan 2025 #48

The kind of "sort of" that results in women dying and families being tormented and separated. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #49

I hear you osteopath6 Jan 2025 #50

I'm not saying they are correct osteopath6 Jan 2025 #40

Most of our ancestors were here "unlawfully" in the sense Ocelot II Jan 2025 #7

Yeah, mine came 1910-1925 LeftInTX Jan 2025 #20

I have a photocopy of one Retrograde Jan 2025 #23

A lot of our ancestors came over "unlawfully." yardwork Jan 2025 #8

+1 exactly Emile Jan 2025 #37

It's also intended to apply to people here lawfully, on temporary visas. Crunchy Frog Jan 2025 #25

I forgot about them. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #36

From the Executive Order in question arthurgoodwin Jan 2025 #33

They will be able to deport anyone that they don't like. Blue Full Moon Jan 2025 #2

Then Trump will be like durablend Jan 2025 #3

For me, that would be liberalhistorian Jan 2025 #16

This is ,....................... Well s***** it is not retroactive Srkdqltr Jan 2025 #5

If they're going after people currently in the country, it is. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #6

Not that his idea isn't horrible and unconstitutional, it most assuredly is AZJonnie Jan 2025 #9

How can Trump end something that is in the Constitution? gab13by13 Jan 2025 #11

See my post #24 below where I explain what I think he's actually up to AZJonnie Jan 2025 #26

He can if the Supreme Court rubber stamps it. Mariana Jan 2025 #42

I'm pretty sure qazplm135 Jan 2025 #13

AFAIK, the rest of the family, sans the child, could always have been deported AZJonnie Jan 2025 #24

I think he wants the kids gone qazplm135 Jan 2025 #32

I'm not sure you're following what I'm trying to say, sorry if I'm being unclear. AZJonnie Jan 2025 #41

He wants the kids to be made to leave qazplm135 Jan 2025 #43

It really doesn't take much cleverness to reckon that the courts may not decide the matter instantly AZJonnie Jan 2025 #47

The US Census from 1850 - 1950 Historic NY Jan 2025 #10

More fascist political theater. J_William_Ryan Jan 2025 #12

Not really at peace, we have been bombing places in the Middle East for Israel questionseverything Jan 2025 #31

The felon should start with Melania and Elon sanduca Jan 2025 #14

It doesn't apply to people who were born before the EO took place. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #18

Who says it won't next week. Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #19

It will likely apply to people born next week and people born today. I have to read the order again. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #21

It applies only to people born 30 days after the order was signed. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #28

And who says that won't change next week? Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #34

He would need to write another EO for it to change to another date. That is the specific wording from the order. LeftInTX Jan 2025 #35

Right. So.... Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #38

Okay but that's not the outcome they're working for, nor the one they will effect WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2025 #27

I suspect your comment reflects a belief I am attempting to co-opt the disaster that's about to befall Scrivener7 Jan 2025 #46

Don't worry, dRUMP. Conjuay Jan 2025 #29

We are people without a country now. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #30

I wouldn't mind getting deported to the Netherlands. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 2025 #39

I don't believe so. Such a thing did not exist before the Revolution, and it wasn't a thing until it suited the FF. mucholderthandirt Jan 2025 #45

I've been saying this for some time proud patriot Jan 2025 #51

My ancestors are in a 1650 census... RainCaster Jan 2025 #52

cough dweller Jan 2025 #53

Trump has already (in his first term) stripped some Texas Latinos of their passports DBoon Jan 2025 #54

The OP's flawed reasoning onenote Jan 2025 #55