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In reply to the discussion: Apparently, Elon is upset that people have started calling Teslas swasticars. [View all]Kid Berwyn
(24,713 posts)Following NASA as a young kid, I got to know Werner von Braun as the "Father of the Saturn V moon rocket." So, von Braun was a boyhood hero of mine. When I found out what he did in the war later, as an adult, von Braun, Oberth and all the NAZI scientists -- and a large number of spies recruited and welcomed by CIA -- who came to the USA after World War II became evil NAZI turds to me.

Imagine how different the world would be if all the resources devoted to killing one another were turned to making life better for all on earth? That was why JFK wanted the space program to be led, like the US military, by civilians. JFK "set aside" von Braun's NAZI past in order to beat the Russians to the moon. As the President lost his big brother Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., in World War 2 fighting the NAZIs, JFK would've tossed Musk -- a neo-NAZI if ever there was one -- out on his ear.