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SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
Sat Dec 15, 2012, 10:13 PM Dec 2012

The really sad thing about all of this, is that there is NO "solution" [View all]

It is just one more thread that is there for the pulling, but will never be pulled.

Violence is just another commodity to be exploited by media, the funeral business, the ribbon business ( I guess white ribbons are for this one), the balloon & candle business..and of course the ubiquitous "sad music libraries" of media everywhere.

Massacre-Porn sells, and of course media benefits, as does the commercial-buyer who just wants eyes on his/her product.

At the heart of this and almost all real problems this society has, is the ponderous lobby industry.

People are not taught about lobbies, and what they do and how they do it. Most people are naive about how lobbyist propaganda controls their lives and sometimes takes those lives.

Lobbyists, who have thwarted real medical care for all, have no doubt taken many lives over decades (indirectly maybe, but still they are dead).

Lobbyists have twisted our election process into the mind-numbingly chaotic mess we have

The mayhem created by lobbyists is responsible for most, if not all, of the truly bad legislation we see passed all over...and for the death of good legislation that we will never see enacted.

If it makes money for someone somewhere, there will be a lobbyist or twenty or fifty or one hundred who will miraculously appear, so that whatever "it" is, will be put into action.

Conversely, anything that is for the general good, even if it COSTS money, will be demonized and stomped to death before it ever gets a chance to happen.

The average person probably never even knows how these things "happen" or why they don't happen. The uneducated among us will blame the president for not doing what he (she, someday) promised, or they will call the president weak for not "ramming legislation through congress", but they also probably do not know that lobbyists and their organizations have bought and paid for the votes that make things happen.

Senators and congress-people (and state officials as well) always want their bread to land butter-side -up, so unelected lobbyists usually prevail, no matter what "the people" want. We can take all the polls we want, and those polls can say whatever they say, but in the end, the lobbyists always get what they pay for, or they buy a new elected official to replace the one they helped toss out, for not "going along".

Don't look for any meaningful change to come.

Gun lobbies and manufacturers are in business to sell guns..

It's nothing personal.. they want to sell more guns..they just want the money.

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Repeal The 2nd Amendment - Undermine The NRA - It Only Takes Courage And Will Power cantbeserious Dec 2012 #1
Do some research on how to repeal an amendment. ... spin Dec 2012 #3
55 Here And Not A Child To Be Scolded - If The American People Want It, It Will Be Done cantbeserious Dec 2012 #4
That is a sentiment most honored in its breach ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #5
66 here and not trying in scold you. ... spin Dec 2012 #6
Fear Mongering At Its Best cantbeserious Dec 2012 #7
You have your opinion and I have mine. Time will show which was right. (n/t) spin Dec 2012 #8
It's Not About Being Right - It's About Doing The Right Thing cantbeserious Dec 2012 #9
yeah, like that universal health care bill we just passed. more like, if the people want it, it HiPointDem Dec 2012 #11
More Fear Mongering To Be Ignored cantbeserious Dec 2012 #13
fear-mongering? you really believe if the american people want something, they get it? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #14
I Really Believe That When Enough Americans Have Had Enough Things Can Change - So Yes I Do Believe cantbeserious Dec 2012 #15
i think we've all had enough of financial fraudsters. yet things don't change. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16
do you really thing you could get 2/3 of both houses of congress and all but 13 states to rarify it rdking647 Dec 2012 #17
If The American People Are Truly Tired Of Children Being Murdered Then It Will Change cantbeserious Dec 2012 #18
Now that is an excellent post and as true as it gets. I seriously don't know where it will teddy51 Dec 2012 #2
I disagree - I have a feeling this one has changed everything. reformist2 Dec 2012 #10
if it's 'changed everything' it's because the ruling class decided they want to tighten gun laws. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #12
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