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PeaceWave

(1,421 posts) Sun Feb 2, 2025, 12:23 AM Feb 2

Went to a dinner party tonight attended by mostly Gen Zers - Enlightening for all the WRONG reasons... [View all]

Keep in mind that these folks were almost all Democrats and none of them were what I would deem to be a schmuck. They had solid educational backgrounds and good starts to their various careers. All of them were struggling with their housing options, with one couple looking at buying a home 100 miles from their preferred location. Such is the housing market for Gen Z.

Anyway, the conversation started with other topics, but eventually turned to politics. It was then that I was astounded to hear one after the other fresh face espouse some variation of "Well, we grew up with Trump. So, we know what to expect and aren't worried about him." Another recurring theme was "Everything's already so fucked up that we may as well shake things up even more."

Kamala was spoken of with outright disdain by the men in the group. "Never a realistic option" opined one while another said "It would have been nice to actually have a choice regarding our candidate." When specifically asked whether Gaza was a deciding factor in their voting decision, both men and women said "Not at all. The economy mattered far more." The opinion of these mid to late 20 year olds was that Gaza only mattered to kids still in college. The economy was also deemed more important than either womens' rights or LGBTQ rights.

When the question of who was now leading the Democratic Party went around, nobody could agree. When AOC was offered as a future Presidential candidate, the suggestion was met with laughter, with one person offering "Why do you think Pelosi and AOC dislike each other so much? It's because they're so similar. Two women who, in their own districts are unbeatable, but who would be wiped out if they ever tried to run for President."

All in all, an enlightening evening for all the wrong reasons. Gen Z views the United States through the eyes of a group who grew up idolizing not rock stars but rather tech developers. The United States is a broken thing that needs to be exposed to a disruptive new software development in order to "make it better." In these young peoples' minds, Donald Trump is an app - like TikTok - for them to use to achieve their personal goals. Little to no thought is given to what happens when the app spins completely out of their control to their detriment.

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Went to a dinner party tonight attended by mostly Gen Zers - Enlightening for all the WRONG reasons... [View all] PeaceWave Feb 2 OP

"The economy." Let's see how that worked out for them. NameAlreadyTaken Feb 2 #1

Idiots. Baitball Blogger Feb 2 #2

education poozwah Feb 2 #77

insulting voters is never a good strategy The Wandering Harper Feb 2 #110

I'm a Zillennial, was born right on the 96/97 Millennial/Gen Z border. If people wonder why, after years of inviting my Celerity Feb 2 #115

glad you stuck around despite all the baloney The Wandering Harper Feb 3 #121

Enlightening. I have heard similar. kerouac2 Feb 2 #3

Even by that measure, it doesn't hold water misanthrope Feb 2 #30

That too harsh of a judgment. The economic prospects for many are bleak CentralMass Feb 2 #33

You don't have to be smart to vote, you just have to be old enough. Drum Feb 2 #4

If they bother to vote. mackdaddy Feb 2 #9

GEN Z ZDU Feb 2 #5

Post removed Post removed Feb 2 #6

JILL STEIN, COME SAVE US! W_HAMILTON Feb 2 #10

Actually David Hogg just won Vice Chair of DNC, maybe there's hope???? Think. Again. Feb 2 #11

OK TnDem Feb 2 #68

At least he's trying.... Butterflylady Feb 2 #108

The real wall is 24/7 media coverage of Musk/Trump. hay rick Feb 2 #13

Did he try to go around the wall with independent or social media coverage? Think. Again. Feb 2 #14

Of course he did. I followed Biden on social media. But not enough folks followed him. SunSeeker Feb 2 #28

You just gave me an idea! pimpbot Feb 2 #67

Yes. They should if they want to get the attention of younger voters. Alliepoo Feb 2 #69

Let's think about this... yardwork Feb 2 #75

I don't think it's done for at all. Alliepoo Feb 2 #86

They won't listen to quiet, calm delivery of information? yardwork Feb 2 #87

I was referring to their online activity. Alliepoo Feb 2 #94

Well to be honest the firehose of actions coming from the administration is overwhelming everything now. nt kelly1mm Feb 2 #39

No, it hasn't. Has any one of those GenZ'rs heard of a party platform? LisaM Feb 2 #43

Bingo. They don't get what a party is or does. marble falls Feb 2 #61

They also don't get a lot of that information Alliepoo Feb 2 #71

I posted something similar a few months ago Dan Feb 2 #7

If they were around for trump disaster #1 choie Feb 2 #78

Yeah, but Biden wasn't entertaining.... Dan Feb 2 #84

post college crowd has entered the real world so their views change radically IMO nt msongs Feb 2 #8

If this is how GenZ really thinks MustLoveBeagles Feb 2 #12

It's not. tavernier Feb 2 #82

Ditto. I taught at a top business school before retiring and while some spooky3 Feb 2 #109

That's a relief MustLoveBeagles Feb 2 #119

They're about to find out... 2naSalit Feb 2 #15

I'm Gen Zzz. hay rick Feb 2 #16

On the last point. LuvLoogie Feb 2 #31

Hear Hear!!! Alliepoo Feb 2 #72

The YouGov poll from last week womanofthehills Feb 2 #70

Good job. You made sure Trump was elected. yardwork Feb 2 #79

Why didn't you do your homework? hay rick Feb 2 #88

That sounds made up ZRB Feb 2 #106

They were raised by Gen X and their parents went hard pro-Trump newdeal2 Feb 2 #17

None of us has ever seen "normal". LisaM Feb 2 #66

I don't think it's that they don't try to research Alliepoo Feb 2 #76

I would suggest you contact KT2000 Feb 2 #18

Do they understand that every seemingly crazy thing he is doing serves Putin? mahina Feb 2 #19

They don't look at Russia as our enemy they think it's just another country. Terribly misinformed. Walleye Feb 2 #52

that is very saddening to hear paulkienitz Feb 2 #20

The power of the static generating influence of MSM and social media! Aussie105 Feb 2 #21

Fuck 'em! Tarzanrock Feb 2 #22

A higher percentage of their generation voted for Harris than any other. Mariana Feb 2 #50

I wonder if they know who their congress member is. And if they know who their mayor , district and state senators are. JI7 Feb 2 #23

Best economy in over 60 years wasn't moniss Feb 2 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Feb 2 #25

A large part of their "unobtainable" moniss Feb 2 #27

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area. The median home price here is $1.2 million. Tiny dumps go for $750K. PeaceWave Feb 2 #32

California's housing costs double the rest of the country, yet we went for Harris BY 20 POINTS. SunSeeker Feb 2 #35

Claiming racism is a simplistic response to a far more complex issue. PeaceWave Feb 2 #41

For fucks sake, Harris offered to help them buy a house and they still voted for Trump. SunSeeker Feb 2 #45

People who are paying two weeks of work for rent can't possibly buy questionseverything Feb 2 #56

People who don't have $400 aren't looking to buy a house. SunSeeker Feb 2 #97

If it is unaffordable to live moniss Feb 2 #40

It's the advertizing, stupid. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2 #85

Every internet site about moniss Feb 2 #93

What is realistic, but most people don't realize it, PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2 #98

Yes I know and agree 100% and I remember moniss Feb 2 #117

Actually, I can accurately say I almost never PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2 #118

Buying a house in one's twenties is such an alien concept to me. betsuni Feb 2 #38

Those 1950s ranches were tiny and the family had only one car. yardwork Feb 2 #81

Not having a pantry is a real inconvenience for us Dave says Feb 2 #96

Where I live, the small houses get bought up by builders and promptly torn down. Mariana Feb 2 #103

Yes, same here. yardwork Feb 2 #107

McMansions were an 80's marketing push. haele Feb 2 #113

The majority of people in Gen Z Tarzanrock Feb 2 #26

Only 43% of Gen Z voters went for Trump. Mariana Feb 2 #51

Any Trump voter who tells you the economy was their primary concern misanthrope Feb 2 #29

They recall the economy under President Trump 45 pre-pandemic fondly, if through rose collared glasses. nt kelly1mm Feb 2 #44

So not just ignorance misanthrope Feb 2 #91

Those idiots are in for a whole new world of hurt. SunSeeker Feb 2 #34

I have come to the realization that Americans no longer aspire to make the country/world a better place, kelly1mm Feb 2 #36

Those men just seem like trash. JI7 Feb 2 #37

They are. 61% of Gen Z women went for Harris, only 47% of Gen Z men did. SunSeeker Feb 2 #42

Tech bros bought the world. usonian Feb 2 #46

Started earlier than that - the Demonization of Liberal Arts education. haele Feb 2 #47

They joined the church of selfishness Keepthesoulalive Feb 2 #48

IMO, they are the Yuppies 2.0 no_hypocrisy Feb 2 #49

Selfish punks Henry203 Feb 2 #53

Probably better to "enlighten" the voters who are aged 45 and up. Mariana Feb 2 #102

My son is Gen Z about to graduate from a highly selective university and work in tech in Silicon Valley OrlandoDem2 Feb 2 #54

With climate change coming,your son's future is very dark Kaleva Feb 2 #65

...and what's more, PCIntern Feb 2 #55

Of all the age groups genxlib Feb 2 #57

Of all the age groups Mariana Feb 2 #101

Understood genxlib Feb 2 #114

AOC and Pelosi are similar is just laughable TheFarseer Feb 2 #58

They think Trump will improve the economy for THEM? Martin Eden Feb 2 #59

All of what you said about the evening discussions I have heard and said FloridaBlues Feb 2 #60

Generation Z (1997 - 2012): Aussie105 Feb 2 #62

Brain development for abstract and higher order thinking skills probably not all there yet. Mariana Feb 2 #100

So sexism still rules? viva la Feb 2 #63

Welp, hope they enjoy the next 40-50 years . . . hatrack Feb 2 #64

Reminds me of "Cabaret" -- with the young soldier singing "Tomorrow Belongs to Me." allegorical oracle Feb 2 #73

What a miserable experience that sounds like! yardwork Feb 2 #74

Are they really "educated?" - or just fed bullshit from their podcastGods and bot controlled social media NoMoreRepugs Feb 2 #80

My phrase for that - they're "very well misinformed". hatrack Feb 2 #90

I can understand them, Trump has been saying the country is broken for doc03 Feb 2 #83

I work with many GenZers ismnotwasm Feb 2 #89

They are becoming acclimated to this dystopian shithole. Happy Hoosier Feb 2 #92

I've heard similar conversations mike_c Feb 2 #95

Interesting narrative, frate Prairie Gates Feb 2 #99

Collectively, they don't seem to register to vote either. Very disenchanting! n/t AntiFascist Feb 2 #104

We old folks dismiss them at our peril Orrex Feb 2 #105

Which is why I posted what I experienced... PeaceWave Feb 2 #112

Yeah, I kind of meant to agree with/complement your post Orrex Feb 2 #120

Makes me wonder if the Private Equity invasion of the house and applegrove Feb 2 #111

Nah. It was just a straight money grab following the Great Wealth Redistribution...I mean Recession. PeaceWave Feb 3 #122

Economy as the key issue is in agreement with the polling in other threads andym Feb 2 #116

Good luck to them Mountainguy Feb 3 #123

Giving a pass to a rapist and convicted felon Hassler Feb 3 #124