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JohnSJ

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50. I wonder if there are any holdovers from the far left way fiasco against Democrats that have successfully given rethugs
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 12:57 PM
Feb 2025

one victory after another in the most critical elections that helped lose the SC, and helped usher in trump, not only once, but twice.

in 2000, 2016, and 2024, by either voting third party or refusing to vote for the Democratic candidate.

Do you remember David SIrota, Nina Turner, Brihana Joy Gray, Cornell West, etc. who not only refused to vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election, but encouraged others to do likewise in 2016. I can't recall what campaign they were part of again.

In 2016 it didn't take much either. In every critical swing state the Democratic nominee lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those critical swing state. A similar fiasco occurred in 2000 and 2024.

It was very clear in all those elections, but especially in 2025 who was the superior person verses Harris and the sociopath.

I blame those who didn't vote as much as those who voted for the sociopath for the disaster we all will be facing.

We did NOT lose because of some imaginary hard right shift of the Democratic party. We lost for the same reason we lost in 2000, 2016, and 2024, because of the all or nothing attitude of some people, "unless I get everything I want, I am not voting"

In addition, labor split the vote between Harris and the sociopath. This is the second time they voted against their own interests. The first time was when they voted for reagan over Carter. This time it will be much worse for them with union busting musk in charge.

Latinos split the vote between Harris and the sociopath. They are already feeling the impact of the stupidity of voting for the sociopath.

The good ole joe rogan fan boys who were so concerned about high prices, and overwhelmingly voted for the sociopath, let's see how they deal with the prices under the sociopath.

The protesters who refused to vote for Harris over the sociopath, by not voting for Harris, everything they were protesting from Climate Change to the middle east, they are going to have a grand time under the sociopath.

Women who didn't come out in the numbers expected in 2025, are going to experience a living hell under the sociopath and his 2025 agenda.

and of course everyone else will suffer because of the foolishness of those who refused to vote for Harris, since the extreme right wing SC now will be in place for decades to come.






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Are any of these new officers... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #1
You're asking if any of the brand new DNC officers is a pro-right wing holdover? lapucelle Feb 2025 #2
Correct. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #3
Yeah, that never happened, lapucelle Feb 2025 #12
Perhaps you didn't notice the centrist Democrat movement. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #13
What are you talking about? lapucelle Feb 2025 #15
You're being silly... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #16
You asked if any "pro-right" officers were elected. lapucelle Feb 2025 #21
Correct, I asked if any of the Dems ... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #22
No. You asked if any members were holdovers from an apocryphal "pro-right Third Way fiasco". lapucelle Feb 2025 #25
Correct... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #27
Why don't you check back in once you've identified the "pro-right" DNC officers lapucelle Feb 2025 #28
That's why I posed the question that asked if any of them were.... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #30
Get back to us when you're done researching your question. N/T lapucelle Feb 2025 #33
It was I who raised the question, I'm hoping someone will get back to ME with an answer. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #34
I wonder if there are any holdovers from the far left way fiasco against Democrats that have successfully given rethugs JohnSJ Feb 2025 #50
Yes, those years you mention since 2000... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #56
No, starting with 2000, the green party and other so-called progressives gave us two terms of bush, the beginning of the JohnSJ Feb 2025 #61
Yes, as I mentioned... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #70
You can blame the DNC who put up shitty canidates for all of that. mucholderthandirt Feb 2025 #75
She's Not the one who's being "silly" Cha Feb 2025 #73
Moving the Party from the Left to the center is a rightward movement. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #74
We flipped two red seats blue in November and are already working on the 2025 County Executive election. lapucelle Feb 2025 #85
You're Awesome, Patriot! Mahalo So Much! Cha Feb 2025 #86
OMG, yes! I've seen it! The idea of wanting to start a third party is batshit crazy! Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #87
Looking forward .................... Lovie777 Feb 2025 #29
When was that? What are some examples of the party moving right? betsuni Feb 2025 #57
I believe the "third way" movement gained momentum in the early 2000's... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #58
It looks like the usual suspects are still mad that Bill Clinton Nixie Feb 2025 #69
Obama was the first President I could vote for since turning 18 AZProgressive Feb 2025 #88
Indeed, I see consistent pattern of seizing every opportunity to deliver disparaging remarks aimed at Democrats. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #10
Yes, moving the party from the Left to the center is a rightward movement. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #17
Someone floated the idea this week of disaffected Democrats joining up with antifa lapucelle Feb 2025 #23
I believe you're referring to me asking if that was what could or should happen... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #32
Oh good grief. You are free to "believe" what you want. However anyone who wants to continue that discussion * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #36
I believe it was you that brought up my old post? Think. Again. Feb 2025 #39
Can you imagine feeling so entitled as to pose a ridiculous question lapucelle Feb 2025 #47
No, I cannot imagine personally having those feelings. But I've observed it in others frequently. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #49
Gee. No surprises there. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author AkFemDem Feb 2025 #76
I disagree. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author AkFemDem Feb 2025 #78
There's a reason Gore never tried to run again. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author AkFemDem Feb 2025 #80
Hogg TnDem Feb 2025 #4
I thought we were recently complaining that we lost battleground states with our old strategy? Think. Again. Feb 2025 #6
Hogg TnDem Feb 2025 #42
I believe the hope is that he brings some fight to the Democratic party. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #43
re: voters TnDem Feb 2025 #51
This is not true at all. intheflow Feb 2025 #44
Well said. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #54
re: Hogg TnDem Feb 2025 #55
I suspect he was chosen for his work in founding the "Leaders We Deserve" PAC... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #59
Didn't he say good riddance when Peltola lost her seat in Alaska? Self Esteem Feb 2025 #81
She was a moderate who didn't support gun reform. intheflow Feb 2025 #82
She represents Alaska lmao Self Esteem Feb 2025 #84
Excellent analogy. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #48
You are correct. His selection was a mistake. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #11
I don't know. Alliepoo Feb 2025 #14
Where's the balance? Does anyone want to "attract" a dozen voter at the expense of alienating hundreds? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #37
In the end, David Hogg got the fewest votes of any vice chair who was elected yesterday. lapucelle Feb 2025 #20
Silver linings, I guess. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #38
Appreciate he only got 2 votes. TY. Cha Feb 2025 #72
I kind of agree madville Feb 2025 #26
Oh, Lordy! Not a potty mouth! intheflow Feb 2025 #45
Some of us have higher standards and higher expectations in that regard. Others don't, obviously. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #46
Oh, you have higher standards than... me? intheflow Feb 2025 #60
I think that our elected representatives should uphold high standards of decorum * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #62
Well, my offer to get you smelling salts stands. n/t intheflow Feb 2025 #66
Of course it does. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #71
If you don't like potty mouths and contempt, wait until you meet Ken Martin! WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2025 #68
David Hogg is the only name I recognize Sanity Claws Feb 2025 #5
I agree. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #7
David Hogg is 24 and Malcolm Kenyatta is 34. lapucelle Feb 2025 #8
Excellent! Think. Again. Feb 2025 #18
80 year old James Zogby noted that he got more applause for dropping out lapucelle Feb 2025 #9
A good sign. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #19
Not Sure Hogg Has the Appeal to the Average Gen Z'er rlexx Feb 2025 #24
His appeal may be on influencing the direction of the party Renew Deal Feb 2025 #31
People won't be voting for him. Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #41
As a Gen Z, I welcome him vanessa_ca Feb 2025 #65
Bring in nothing but ass kickers and fighters - baking fucking cookies for decades has gotten us to this point. NoMoreRepugs Feb 2025 #52
Very happy with the 3 Vice Chairs. Hope they have some real input accepted. Also hoping Nanjeanne Feb 2025 #53
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #63
You just joined today? JustAnotherGen Feb 2025 #64
or worse. JohnSJ Feb 2025 #67
HOGG! NT librechik Feb 2025 #83
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