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Chemisse

(30,793 posts)
114. That was my first reaction when I heard about the guns
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 08:28 AM
Dec 2012

But the way people are running her over the coals for so many other reasons is just wrong.

I can't believe she knew she had a son with mental problems and didn't LOCK Lex Dec 2012 #1
but that epitomizes the gun culture Skittles Dec 2012 #3
so true . . . Lex Dec 2012 #5
epitomizes? Those are its entire ingredients. villager Dec 2012 #40
yes...fear, ignorance BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #46
Maybe mom was not mentally all there either? Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #8
Certainly not very smart Lex Dec 2012 #13
If there were a way for Darwin to work his magic with guns, I would not want any gun laws BlueStreak Dec 2012 #65
actually, some people like to target and skeet practice and some roguevalley Dec 2012 #22
She wasn't a teacher dorkzilla Dec 2012 #33
Little did she know... kag Dec 2012 #66
Yep lyonn Dec 2012 #184
But very few people are skeet enthsiasts and truedelphi Dec 2012 #47
I agree. They are military weapons and need to be banned. I wish they would be. roguevalley Dec 2012 #50
Very expensive over-and-under shotguns are used by avid skeet shooters jpak Dec 2012 #185
Actually you are wrong there on several counts ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #200
She got $250k a yr in alimony and she couldn't afford mental health care blueamy66 Dec 2012 #54
Excellent point. FarPoint Dec 2012 #81
Indeed. Thank you. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #99
Don't you see AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #55
Assault Rifles...Enough Said louis c Dec 2012 #93
Most gun nut seem to be more affraid of the police and the government than... Walk away Dec 2012 #174
She is equally to blame for not securing her arsenal. MrsMatt Dec 2012 #117
You dont blame her? sellitman Dec 2012 #118
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No it really doesn't ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #78
Well, she wasn't scraping to get by or living in a dangerous area, by neighbor's accounts. we can do it Dec 2012 #94
So? And? obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #101
What is wrong with you? I was responding to post about the $250,000 per year alimony. we can do it Dec 2012 #105
Not a damned thing is wrong with me obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #107
Whatever - if she was promoting gun worship and paranoia she is part of the problem. we can do it Dec 2012 #108
You know what is scary. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #132
Going by what's been aired so far, mom and neighbors knew Adam had a problem of some sort. we can do it Dec 2012 #149
Thank You! Sissyk Dec 2012 #148
And she had plenty of money to get medical care for her son! nt Walk away Dec 2012 #175
Getting murdered so her ex doesn't have to pay alimony is "poetic justice" obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #100
+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #126
Her negligence caused the death of two dozen people jberryhill Dec 2012 #129
she also failed to get help for her son, who she had to know needed help. eom ellenfl Dec 2012 #160
Do we know this for sure? vankuria Dec 2012 #169
he was 20... which means his issues didn't spring up in the last two years SemperEadem Dec 2012 #180
Very true vankuria Dec 2012 #191
She may have bought the guns for the kid, oldbanjo Dec 2012 #179
Your defense of this woman is bizarre. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #151
Every gun owner is a "responsible", trained, gun owner, ask the NRA. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #76
sad thing is many are DBoon Dec 2012 #150
And, most illogical. Cha Dec 2012 #111
wonder if the mother could have had mental issues too SummerSnow Dec 2012 #134
At some point, the despairing strike out at the font of their despair. nt patrice Dec 2012 #2
"mom"? Union Scribe Dec 2012 #4
Mom. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #6
The gun culture in this country is absolutely the problem AndyA Dec 2012 #7
+1 you speak truth. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2012 #73
Yes. Limbaugh and his ilk have been stoking the paranoia for well over 20 years. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #102
Time to watch "Bowling for Columbine" again. Love Bug Dec 2012 #135
So, how culpable was she? Accessory before the fact? LiberalAndProud Dec 2012 #9
IF a person with mental problems had access to or lived in her home and IF kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #16
I miss unrec. eom uppityperson Dec 2012 #10
You would. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #29
gun nut for sure, but survivalist? Nothing I've read indicates that. cali Dec 2012 #11
here riverwalker Dec 2012 #19
A survivalist relying on a quarter mil alimony? adieu Dec 2012 #71
Dispicable vs. Irrelevant. Chan790 Dec 2012 #142
Pure unsubstantiated hyperbole UndahCovah Dec 2012 #62
I place some of the blame here. Lokey Dec 2012 #12
This is NOT what her friends and neighbors are saying in their village. Coyotl Dec 2012 #14
That's a poor analogy as her son had no "right" to shoot her or anyone else. bluesbassman Dec 2012 #49
Exactly my point. Who are you to say these things about her? Coyotl Dec 2012 #84
Well I get your point, as you made it in the previous post. bluesbassman Dec 2012 #88
Why is it important for you to label the victim?? Saboburns Dec 2012 #15
Because these kinds of things do not materialize out of thin air jeff47 Dec 2012 #17
I agree with you pegasis Dec 2012 #138
It's code...just like "thug" or "goblin" means African American. pop topcan Dec 2012 #60
Except COMPLETELY NOT. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #103
No. He probably spent some time in our gungeon... Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #152
I admit I've never been to the gungeon and frankly don't even know where it is tpsbmam Dec 2012 #155
I've trashed the Gungeon on the advice of a brilliant DUer (I forget whom, sorry!) But Chorophyll Dec 2012 #166
Yes, it is also like "welfare queen"...which is precisely the point I was making. Didn't you grasp pop topcan Dec 2012 #208
I was agreeing with you and expanding the point. I thought the other poster wasn't. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #210
Sorry, your lack of reading comprehension is not something I can fix. pop topcan Dec 2012 #194
That's very cute. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #196
Um.....maybe on some other boards you've been on but not on this board! tpsbmam Dec 2012 #154
There is no code involved. A gun nut is a person who needs, wants and loves their guns. Walk away Dec 2012 #177
This message was self-deleted by its author ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #199
Victim? How about accessory? Jakes Progress Dec 2012 #183
Last night, as soon as I heard about the assault rifle I said to my wife.... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #18
My first thoughts too. Ineeda Dec 2012 #26
I'm a vet, not a member of the NRA, don't own any guns,.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #20
Being an outsider (Canadian) looking in... OnlinePoker Dec 2012 #156
Well said. TinkerTot55 Dec 2012 #168
Meh. There will be lots of gnashing of teeth and beating of breast, nothing will change Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #21
Unfortunately, you are probably correct Bluzmann57 Dec 2012 #23
We are a nation of sheep. Willing to have Wolves" cull" the herd, so we can keep our guns Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #24
In six months? We've had two this week! Chorophyll Dec 2012 #106
So I dont have a right to post whats actually going to happen? Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #113
You have the right to post whatever you want. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #144
Why shouldn't I be? Not like the response isn't anything more than Kabuki theater Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #173
If everyone was like you, there would have been no civil rights movement Chorophyll Dec 2012 #186
Hehe, spoken with such certitude ... Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #195
Please quote Dr. Who at me some more. It's such an effective argument. nt Chorophyll Dec 2012 #197
I never bother to argue with someone who is so certain of their views. Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #201
You're gonna have a hell of a time talking to people here at DU if you don't like Chorophyll Dec 2012 #202
Touchy aren't we? Katashi_itto Dec 2012 #203
And what about "dad"? redqueen Dec 2012 #25
The parents were divorced as of 2009. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #48
You are right. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #153
No, every child has two parents. And dads should not get a pass on parenting. redqueen Dec 2012 #162
Dad shouldn't get a pass on coming over to her house and locking up her guns for her either. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #163
Cite the evidence that they weren't locked up. redqueen Dec 2012 #164
Um. They made it out of the house to kill 20 kids and 4 adults???? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #170
So sadly unsurprising. nt redqueen Dec 2012 #182
Derp Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #189
so you're saying that Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2012 #215
I'm not absolving him, but this kid lived with his gun nut survivalist mom. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #204
This goes to show it doesn't really matter whether the guns are "locked up"... reformist2 Dec 2012 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #34
Think she feels safe now? Zoeisright Dec 2012 #28
Your headline is offensive and negates the rest of what you say SajayHobbs Dec 2012 #36
The problem is too many guns. If you deny that then *YOU* are part of the problem. baldguy Dec 2012 #53
Nope. I like the headline. amuse bouche Dec 2012 #56
No, his headline is NOT offensive. paparush Dec 2012 #143
Sounds like a Glenn Beckerite elfin Dec 2012 #30
This in itself makes her sound crazy from the get-go. Her ex, in an amicable divorce, agrees Nay Dec 2012 #44
^^^^^^^ blueamy66 Dec 2012 #57
Lots of conjecture there. redqueen Dec 2012 #61
Yes, there is -- that's why I said "I am just speculating." I don't want anyone to think that my Nay Dec 2012 #80
That's how I suspect this will play out as well.nt Barack_America Dec 2012 #87
YEAH! A lot of speculation. maddiemom Dec 2012 #181
And, per this morning's article in my paper.... blueamy66 Dec 2012 #207
We had guns in my house growing up NICO9000 Dec 2012 #32
Where are the links to the articles stating all this? Roland99 Dec 2012 #35
What do you know about her? Herlong Dec 2012 #41
um, what? I didn't make ANY allegations. I just asked a question! Roland99 Dec 2012 #82
I heard the information on MSNBC this morning. xmas74 Dec 2012 #67
Oh geez...sounds like a Beckian or Limbot. Roland99 Dec 2012 #83
If people like to sport shoot and do that sport shooting at special sport shooting places, valerief Dec 2012 #37
This woman knew her son had mental health issues why in the world did she teach him southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #38
Gun animals flamingdem Dec 2012 #39
She will probably be Focus on The Family mother of the year. alfredo Dec 2012 #42
Any Citations to prove this Flatpicker Dec 2012 #43
Her sister (Lanza's aunt) said this. It was broadcasted on MSNBC all day today. n/t vaberella Dec 2012 #59
here ya go xmas74 Dec 2012 #68
Thanks Flatpicker Dec 2012 #74
Not a problem. xmas74 Dec 2012 #171
Color me shocked. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #45
Anytime someone says they are 'passionate' about their guns amuse bouche Dec 2012 #51
Mother probably felt having an assault weapon somehow made her safer LynneSin Dec 2012 #52
Too bad she didn't seek amuse bouche Dec 2012 #58
Did this mother fight against her son being HockeyMom Dec 2012 #63
She sure was a gun nut but it is possible that he killed her malaise Dec 2012 #64
He killed his mother with one of her guns, so he had access. Zen Democrat Dec 2012 #70
The guns were bought for protection I just heard. Third Doctor Dec 2012 #69
He shot his mother in the face while she slept. JimDandy Dec 2012 #110
Sorry to say, albear Dec 2012 #72
The mom that people love to hate. Chemisse Dec 2012 #75
I never thought this place was like this Saboburns Dec 2012 #91
I don't knee-jerk blame mothers, kiva Dec 2012 #96
That was my first reaction when I heard about the guns Chemisse Dec 2012 #114
I agree - kiva Dec 2012 #145
Agreed -- his brother was being snarked about this mroning obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #104
Yeah. It's sure bringing out the uglier emotions in people. Chemisse Dec 2012 #115
Maybe they're just upset about children being murdered Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #159
wtf? Sissyk Dec 2012 #167
Complacent mother? Chemisse Dec 2012 #188
The guns were in her house Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #192
You know, given the context, you might want to avoid using terms like thucythucy Dec 2012 #165
True about the ammo comment; it was in bad taste. But Chemisse Dec 2012 #190
It was only meant to be mild criticism, if that. thucythucy Dec 2012 #198
some real self righteous behavior here grahampuba Dec 2012 #77
Let us not overlook the irony of a survivalist bringing about her own demise. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #79
That asserts facts not in evidence ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #85
The dead cry out for justice, not NRA talking point idiocy. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #122
The situation calls out for reasoned solutions, not irrational polemics and screeds ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #123
You have never supported any suggestion for increased regulation of firearms. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #125
Actually I have over time ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #130
Name one new regulation you would support. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #133
I will give you much more than that ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #178
The ultimate American Fetish. grantcart Dec 2012 #86
Mom also seems to have been in the upper 2 percent. I blame the media and their corporate bosses. we can do it Dec 2012 #89
BIG surprise Skittles Dec 2012 #90
What's the documentation on her being a survivalist? Ken Burch Dec 2012 #92
Another attack the victim thread. former9thward Dec 2012 #95
Start simple - whose guns were these? jberryhill Dec 2012 #131
Sp far the police have not said. former9thward Dec 2012 #147
Connecticut Shooter Adam Lanza's Guns Were Registered To Mother Nancy Lanza: Official Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2012 #157
Sorry I don't believe anonymous sources. former9thward Dec 2012 #161
K&R. Gun culture is the problem. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #97
Plain Stupidity. Coyotl Dec 2012 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author Sadiedog Dec 2012 #109
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #112
we do not need to demopnize her, but DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #116
Consider this hypothetical: the mom wasn't killed. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #121
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #141
You misspelled "defecating." lillypaddle Dec 2012 #119
As the googler seems broken for the gun nut apologists in this thread... Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #120
Repeal the 2nd amendment Axiomat Dec 2012 #124
If we thought the fight over the ACA was tough... Swede Atlanta Dec 2012 #127
Nat Geo MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #136
I'm at a loss... Liberal1975 Dec 2012 #137
Reported that she took him out of school in 10th Grade HockeyMom Dec 2012 #139
Was she another "tea bag" or (?) Amonester Dec 2012 #146
How can you people even defend her? horsedoc Dec 2012 #140
Amazing, or at least it should be amazing, sadly it isn't. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #172
Mom's guns mhilburn Dec 2012 #158
Love this quote from your OP, it is so accurate: apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #176
The mentality that it is humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #187
That's a big question- if she knew he was unhinged, and she had guns, how did he get them? nt cecilfirefox Dec 2012 #193
As a gun owner I'm all in favor of registering guns and magazines. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #205
Feel free to sacrifice your Constitutional rights as you wish, just don't expect me or 80 million pop topcan Dec 2012 #209
Absolutely serious and none of this would be unconstitutional. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #212
You really should cut down on the Ganja... pop topcan Dec 2012 #213
You really should man up and stop pretending you're going to fight a war with the government .... Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #214
She has survived in infamy nolabels Dec 2012 #206
People are in pain ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #211
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