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DanTex

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34. Why do all gun fanatics live in a fantasy world?

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 09:16 AM

Dec 2012

Yes, the dissenters will allow it. Did you actually read the dissents? There were two dissents, both signed by all 4 non-right-wing justices. The first one (Stevens) stated clearly that the second amendment is about militias and not self-defense. The second one (Breyer) stated clearly that even if the second amendment did protect gun ownership not connected to militia service, a handgun ban would still fall under the category of reasonable constitutional restriction for the sake of public safety.

The problem is not the constitution, it is the right-wing supreme court.

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so people didn't get my post about guns [View all] backwoodsbob Dec 2012 OP

You do know the coroner extracted .223 from the victims nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #1

yeah and you know backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #2

And your point nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #5

Sorry Bob... catnhatnh Dec 2012 #3

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Sure Bob... catnhatnh Dec 2012 #8

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It tells me all I needed to know. N/T catnhatnh Dec 2012 #16

You killed a dog!? abelenkpe Dec 2012 #13

Just as soon pipoman Dec 2012 #4

Fantasy land bongbong Dec 2012 #9

Until the 1980's and Raygun pipoman Dec 2012 #12

sheesh bongbong Dec 2012 #19

I agree with you. I was a nurse back in that time frame. Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #41

Real change would be legalization of recreational MJ, pipoman Dec 2012 #43

Absolutely correct on blaming Reagan on de-funding mental health services. FSogol Dec 2012 #44

I remember Democrats at the time pipoman Dec 2012 #49

Actually it would be as simple as replacing one of the judges Major Nikon Dec 2012 #11

Go read the Heller pipoman Dec 2012 #17

I did Major Nikon Dec 2012 #21

They just never are.. pipoman Dec 2012 #25

It's not unprecedented Major Nikon Dec 2012 #28

Constitutional interpretation pipoman Dec 2012 #32

Depends on if you subscribe to Scalia or Souter/Breyer/Ginsburg/Stevens school of thought Major Nikon Dec 2012 #33

You've got that right. Former Justice Stevens did all but come right out and say this byeya Dec 2012 #35

Why do all gun fanatics live in a fantasy world? DanTex Dec 2012 #34

The problem is reading comprehension pipoman Dec 2012 #37

Not a bad idea Major Nikon Dec 2012 #7

Both. Although I do think handguns are a bigger threat to public. Hoyt Dec 2012 #10

I'm cool with banning both abelenkpe Dec 2012 #14

What do you have against a 150 year old technology? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #18

Too much mental illness bongbong Dec 2012 #20

Is there a diagnostic code for that? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #26

It's being used to kill large numbers of people. MNBrewer Dec 2012 #22

What has changed to cause that to happen now? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #27

Maybe this is the straw that broke the camel's back MNBrewer Dec 2012 #30

That may well be true ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #31

Mustard gas hasn't changed markedly since WWI MNBrewer Dec 2012 #38

Mustard gas has never been in general use by civilians, though it is easy to make ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #39

You keep coming back to that inane question MNBrewer Dec 2012 #42

Because we don't want to look at the source of the problem. Because ranting about a simplistic Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #23

Just some thoughts discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #48

Thanks. My real worry is that the outrage of the moment will instigate actions that will destroy Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #54

What does the age of the technology have to do with anything? DanTex Dec 2012 #47

Because until recently they were not considered a massive problem ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #50

What has changed in the last 150 years? Is that really your question? DanTex Dec 2012 #51

Well Bob, not to be "too fucking argumentative" catnhatnh Dec 2012 #24

Banning guns isn't going to happen. Democratopia Dec 2012 #29

Most of out Presidents who have been shot have been with a handgun. byeya Dec 2012 #36

Good luck bob Berserker Dec 2012 #40

Having glanced through this thread, Chorophyll Dec 2012 #45

The only thing on Friday the handgun ban maybe would have stopped was the suicide Marrah_G Dec 2012 #46

Assault Rifles Moral Compass Dec 2012 #52

"That's stupid" handguns aren't that scary looking former-republican Dec 2012 #53