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Spider Jerusalem

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97. Not that strict

Sun Dec 16, 2012, 11:10 AM

Dec 2012

permit required for handguns, gun safety course. NCIS background check. 14-day waiting period. Which seems strict in comparison to "no permit required, no background check, no training needed", but really isn't; it's still very easy for the average person to obtain a permit. (Especially when the mental health test basically means "no prior involuntary commitment or adjudication&quot .

2. Submit a letter or certification attesting that you have completed an approved course in the safety and use of pistols/revolvers. This must be signed by one of the following: an N.R.A. certified pistol/revolver instructor, a DEP certified instructor or a state certified firearms instructor.

3. Submit a complete set of fingerprints with a check or money order for $35.00 payable to DPS.

4. When applicable, criminal and/or mental health records must be submitted (C.G.S. 29-36g)

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This blaming those of us mentally ill for your fucking gun problems is getting tiresome. [View all] cliffordu Dec 2012 OP

KIcking it just cause I'm a little pissed. cliffordu Dec 2012 #1

It is a public health issue nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #2

Well there are some very strict gun laws in Conn Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #85

The bushmaster was bought across state lines nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #96

Not that strict Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #97

Who's blamed you? Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #3

thank you for your perspective and for your sense of responsibility to others liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #6

Every. Single. Time. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #8

I don't think "culture" alone can force someone to slaughter more than two dozen innocents. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #11

Yeah. Easy access to guns. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #75

Easy access to guns, a right wing fearfest, iemitsu Dec 2012 #86

"force?" no, it is a contributing cause. Deep13 Dec 2012 #82

Right. I was just taking issue with the poster I responded to. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #105

So-called normal people Abq_Sarah Dec 2012 #121

NO ONE can guarantee they will never tblue Dec 2012 #78

It doesn't have to be either/or. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #114

Shivering Jemmy, Your comment gave me chills.. rainlillie Dec 2012 #57

Totally relate and agree easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #103

+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2012 #106

KnR alittlelark Dec 2012 #4

no one is blaming every single mentally ill person but liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #5

Well stated. Thank you for your most thoughtful and logical post. corneliamcgillicutty Dec 2012 #101

The way America approaches problems is part of the problem. Gregorian Dec 2012 #7

Being Mentally ill is having a diagnosed mental illness BainsBane Dec 2012 #10

here's an interesting read on mass murders in Psychology Today liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #17

Thank you so much for referring us to that Psychology Today article! ReRe Dec 2012 #44

you are right on about encouraging them to take their meds liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #47

Yes, one gets to feeling better and doesn't take the meds anymore... ReRe Dec 2012 #55

Sylvia Seegrist - Springfield Mall, PA, 1985 TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #91

You assume they do BainsBane Dec 2012 #92

I do wonder BainsBane Dec 2012 #94

I'll say it again- it's about EMOTIONAL WELLNESS. Gregorian Dec 2012 #100

I provided a link BainsBane Dec 2012 #112

Interesting that your account of the causes of depression BainsBane Dec 2012 #113

I fully agree with you loyalsister Dec 2012 #9

it's not ignored by those of us who know someone with a mental illness and who want liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #13

I know there are individuals who care loyalsister Dec 2012 #15

I do not blame you, but if ruled the world I would not let you have a gun. KILL THE WISE ONE Dec 2012 #12

Why? BainsBane Dec 2012 #19

No offense but you don't speak for every, your words, mentally ill person Fearless Dec 2012 #14

There is No correlation between mental illness and violence BainsBane Dec 2012 #21

Correlation does not equal causation Fearless Dec 2012 #24

Some are men and some are women? BainsBane Dec 2012 #30

you do know that most mental illness is not diagnosed Skittles Dec 2012 #60

Your point? BainsBane Dec 2012 #64

forget it Skittles Dec 2012 #68

Ok BainsBane Dec 2012 #70

Not strictly true. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #27

Yes, thank you BainsBane Dec 2012 #28

Totally agree. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #31

Having a mental illness zabet Dec 2012 #16

"how his mind betrayed him" liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #20

That was part of what zabet Dec 2012 #80

it's so scary how the current state of mental-health care leaves people in your situation... renate Dec 2012 #66

Thank you zabet Dec 2012 #72

wouldn't it be nice if it were illegal to operate a gun while intoxicated? liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #73

Yes! zabet Dec 2012 #83

the little bit of news i've watched -- they absolutely haven't even said "mental illness" orleans Dec 2012 #18

Your post is thought provoking coldbeer Dec 2012 #22

This board has been full of "guns aren't the problem, untreated mental illness is." Zoeisright Dec 2012 #76

no--i honestly haven't seen that. but i haven't been on here that much. n/t orleans Dec 2012 #117

Shooting up a bunch of people indicates mental illness mindwalker_i Dec 2012 #23

I don't blame mental illness, defacto7 Dec 2012 #25

people who are mentally ill should not have guns Dustin DeWinde Dec 2012 #26

that's interesting you would make that analogy liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #29

Your "common sense" is prejudice BainsBane Dec 2012 #32

your article is not the end all be all answer liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #34

Psych Today sites a study BainsBane Dec 2012 #35

in the psychology today article it says liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #36

The key issue is alcohol and drugs BainsBane Dec 2012 #38

in mass murder key contributors are drugs, alcohol, and mental illness liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #40

Evidence? BainsBane Dec 2012 #48

i provided evidence. You are so not worth it. going on ignore. liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #49

How weak minded BainsBane Dec 2012 #51

I cited the same study in psych today BainsBane Dec 2012 #54

YOU KNOW IT, LIBERAL Skittles Dec 2012 #84

No, the key issue is unfettered access to assault weapons. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #77

Well yes BainsBane Dec 2012 #79

The blaming of law abiding gun owners letemrot Dec 2012 #33

Prove it BainsBane Dec 2012 #37

Prove that I haven't committed a murder? letemrot Dec 2012 #39

Prove that mental illness is the cause of mass murder BainsBane Dec 2012 #42

Well.. Ill go out on a limb letemrot Dec 2012 #45

You are assuming BainsBane Dec 2012 #52

Ok so you're going to blame me as a 'gun lover' letemrot Dec 2012 #56

No BainsBane Dec 2012 #61

Fair enough. letemrot Dec 2012 #71

You too BainsBane Dec 2012 #74

your talking about all violent crimes vs. specificly mass murder TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #93

I see your point. BainsBane Dec 2012 #95

Let me add letemrot Dec 2012 #41

And you have the added pleasure BainsBane Dec 2012 #43

Blaming the individual that commits the act letemrot Dec 2012 #46

And of course you are right... letemrot Dec 2012 #50

There are a few issues BainsBane Dec 2012 #58

I never said any such thing. letemrot Dec 2012 #59

Not for this crime BainsBane Dec 2012 #63

CALL IT A DAY??? Skittles Dec 2012 #62

Yes. As in stop pointing fingers letemrot Dec 2012 #65

sorry your widdle feelings got hurt Skittles Dec 2012 #67

You're the one with the puke smiley. letemrot Dec 2012 #69

No need to argue semantics, minutia- reframe the issue & make guns part of the war on terror graham4anything Dec 2012 #53

agreed Deep13 Dec 2012 #81

For me, the issue to look at is immaturity Tsiyu Dec 2012 #87

A child lies with 11 bullets in them, that's mental arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #88

So every person that kills someone is "mentally ill?" Tsiyu Dec 2012 #99

Lousy job of extrapolating arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #104

Your are conflating hideous crimes with mental illness. Cetacea Dec 2012 #118

You're doing it again. I did not say all hideous arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #124

I'm sorry if my posts could be construed that way lbrtbell Dec 2012 #89

Normal people aren't pushed over the edge? Cetacea Dec 2012 #119

Hell yeah DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #90

Most people have a limited or no understanding of mental illness. etherealtruth Dec 2012 #98

The really sad part is that they are ignored even after a tragedy occurs. nt Live and Learn Dec 2012 #109

It is abominable etherealtruth Dec 2012 #111

agree.... madrchsod Dec 2012 #102

I'm VERY concerned about SSRI drugs and suicide/murder ideations. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #107

Not blame at all. In fact, we want better mental health care Live and Learn Dec 2012 #108

It is a RWing talking point that some here SHOULD know Rex Dec 2012 #110

. riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #115

K&R. Absolutely agree with you. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #116

Adam Lanza had access to the best mental health treatment that money could buy... ellisonz Dec 2012 #120

Well Said. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #122

I really don't like the recent attempt to link Asperger's with violence. AngryOldDem Dec 2012 #123