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Wiz Imp

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56. I completely respect your position on this. Your reasoning is very logical.

Thu Feb 6, 2025, 12:02 AM

Feb 6

The main reason for my position is that the filibuster as it exists now, gives too much power to the minority. If the founders had thought legislation should require more than 50% approval in the Senate, they would have written it into the Constitution that way. But your reasoning for keeping it is why I'm open to keeping it as well but in more limited situations so that it isn't used on 95% of bills introduced like it seems to be now.

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Democratic senators will hold the Senate floor all night long in opposition to the nomination of Russ Vought... [View all] demmiblue Feb 5 OP

Yes BoRaGard Feb 5 #1

MORE INFO - HuffPost Wicked Blue Feb 5 #2

About time. dalton99a Feb 5 #3

GOOD!! proud patriot Feb 5 #4

Will fetterman be there? Lunabell Feb 5 #5

He would love to but he has to pick up his suit (sigular) from the dry cleaners ..... nt kelly1mm Feb 5 #31

lol wolfie001 Feb 6 #58

They can stall it but they're not going to stop it. 😞 Jrsygrl96 Feb 5 #6

They should be making as much public noise... Think. Again. Feb 5 #7

Correct. Form over substance. Not nothing, but ultimately futile. nt kelly1mm Feb 5 #32

As Rachel or Lawrence said - they maybe thought Dems would easly fold. While they can't stop alot of stuff they Can... electric_blue68 Feb 6 #57

put a hold or block on it. nt msongs Feb 5 #8

It doesn't work that way. They are taking maximum action. tritsofme Feb 5 #9

There is no such thing as a block on a nomination Wiz Imp Feb 5 #30

I don't get it tinymontgomery Feb 5 #10

Holds don't block a nomination, they make it more painful. tritsofme Feb 5 #12

Thanks, just seems like they get away with everything. n/t tinymontgomery Feb 5 #37

Holds on individual cabinet nominees don't do much. Wiz Imp Feb 5 #35

Thanks for the response tinymontgomery Feb 5 #38

No problem. Before a few weeks ago, I didn't have a great understanding of how everything works either Wiz Imp Feb 5 #47

Didn't take it as negative, thank you for the info. n/t tinymontgomery Feb 5 #50

Thanks! Having a clear understanding... reACTIONary Feb 6 #59

Please call your Senators to vote NO on Vought. StarryNite Feb 5 #11

Good! More of this RESISTANCE please! 🙏 SunSeeker Feb 5 #13

Ah, an old-fashioned filibuster. malthaussen Feb 5 #14

Not a filibuster. Filibusters are not allowed for nominees Wiz Imp Feb 5 #45

A rose by any other name. malthaussen Feb 5 #49

Do it! More spine, please! calimary Feb 5 #15

Finally showing some backbone. Grumpy Old Guy Feb 5 #16

He's one of the fuckers who masterminded this shit. patphil Feb 5 #17

Do not bdamomma Feb 5 #18

Good! peggysue2 Feb 5 #19

ABOUT TIME!!!!! Clouds Passing Feb 5 #20

There are a growing number of floors requiring holding out there Magoo48 Feb 5 #21

It means a lot to the base for our leaders to be seen fighting back. Irish_Dem Feb 5 #22

We need to use every tactic to derail, delay and make them fight for every inch. hadEnuf Feb 5 #23

This is a good start but jgmiller Feb 5 #24

It's not a filibuster. Filibuster is not allowed on nominees. Wiz Imp Feb 5 #44

When does this begin? senseandsensibility Feb 5 #25

Good old-fashioned filibuster AverageOldGuy Feb 5 #26

Isn't/wasn't it the position of a majority of DU and many Democratic lawmakers that the filibuster is/was a kelly1mm Feb 5 #33

This is not a filibuster. The filibuster no longer is allowed for nominees. Wiz Imp Feb 5 #42

You and I know that. This is just the regular full time that each Senator is allowed to use in nominations. However kelly1mm Feb 5 #48

To be completely honest, I believe the filibuster should either be eliminated or restrictions placed Wiz Imp Feb 5 #52

Thanks for the detailed response. I am similar but come tom the other conclusion that the filibuster kelly1mm Feb 5 #54

I completely respect your position on this. Your reasoning is very logical. Wiz Imp Feb 6 #56

Not a filibuster Wiz Imp Feb 5 #43

This should have been Day One shit... EarthFirst Feb 5 #27

Yes Block Vought WyLoochka Feb 5 #28

Not possible to block. At best this will delay final confirmation by a day or 2 but it's still a good thing to do. Wiz Imp Feb 5 #41

And some were advocating for the end of the filibuster just a few years previous. egduj Feb 5 #29

This is not a filibuster. There is no filibuster allowed on nominees. Wiz Imp Feb 5 #40

They should include the gang of 3 misfits trying to get confirmed. FloridaBlues Feb 5 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Feb 5 #36

FYI, they've had the cloture vote on Vought already and the vote was 53-47 Wiz Imp Feb 5 #39

Don't count on Bennett or Hickenlooper. nt Hotler Feb 5 #46

What about for RFK, Tulsi, and Kash? Polybius Feb 5 #51

Now that they've done this for Vought, I expect there's a good chance they will try it Wiz Imp Feb 5 #53

Thank you to the democrats showing gumption and fight. Shame on those that vote along side the fascist. nt Hotler Feb 5 #55