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AndyA

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21. I think you've bought into the crazy gun culture in this country
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:53 PM
Dec 2012

and don't want to accept that the right to keep and bear arms is harmful to society.

Ask the parents of any of the kids killed in Connecticut on Friday if they think their kids rights were protected as well as those of the gun owner whose guns killed all those people. You want to talk about interfering with someone else's rights? Seems to me those folks in Connecticut had their rights broached on Friday.

Score points? On a forum? Not worth the time. I'm just trying to have a civil discussion on this subject because I feel like the second amendment right is considered the supreme right among many gun owners, and I think they've forgotten that they aren't the victims here, the dead people are. And so are the ones they leave behind, who have to piece together their lives, lives which have changed dramatically and will never be the same. All so that gun owners can keep their guns.

As far as logic goes, there's not much logic in allowing things to continue as they have been. That's insanity, we already know what the end result will be.

I appreciate your posts.

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When rights conflict [View all] AndyA Dec 2012 OP
Err on the side of society in this case. Hoyt Dec 2012 #1
This one has been nagging at me Lindsay Dec 2012 #2
I absolutely agree with you. marezdotes Dec 2012 #3
The crux of the matter and a powerful discussion that needs to happen. riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #4
I had hoped that some gun rights supporters would respond AndyA Dec 2012 #5
Me too. Honestly, I'm going to guess its because this argument really IS the toughie. riderinthestorm Dec 2012 #6
I asked the same question rbrnmw Dec 2012 #7
I don't see a conflict. X_Digger Dec 2012 #8
The right to dictate others' actions AndyA Dec 2012 #9
Restating your OP doesn't actually address what I said. X_Digger Dec 2012 #10
Your drunk driving example doesn't make sense AndyA Dec 2012 #12
It actually was apt- as long as the restaurant (and drivers) are following the law(s).. X_Digger Dec 2012 #13
I still see it as a conflict of rights AndyA Dec 2012 #14
If victims of gun violence didn't have their right to life protected, murder would be legal. n/t X_Digger Dec 2012 #17
Not good enough. AndyA Dec 2012 #18
The two aren't in conflict. X_Digger Dec 2012 #19
I think you've bought into the crazy gun culture in this country AndyA Dec 2012 #21
All rights represent some danger to society. Rights are dangerous things! X_Digger Dec 2012 #22
K&R. forestpath Dec 2012 #11
You are not wrong. 99Forever Dec 2012 #15
The right to bear arms is an antiquated notion. frustrated_lefty Dec 2012 #16
What would make each and every person in that resturant happy? rrneck Dec 2012 #20
Many people consider people brandishing guns to be a threat AndyA Dec 2012 #23
A holstered gun is not brandishing. rrneck Dec 2012 #24
It's not unreasonable to fear a stranger with a gun AndyA Dec 2012 #25
Attitudes may indeed change. rrneck Dec 2012 #27
Thank you for having this conversation in a respectful manner AndyA Dec 2012 #28
You're very welcome. And thank you. nt rrneck Dec 2012 #29
you are not wrong - these rights are inalienable DrDan Dec 2012 #26
How did Berserker Dec 2012 #30
I don't understand your questions. n/t AndyA Dec 2012 #31
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