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DFW

(60,050 posts)
39. Don't hold your breath
Fri Feb 14, 2025, 03:35 AM
Feb 2025

Al still harbors a bitterness against his Democratic colleagues who threw him under the bus (and don’t you dare get Franni started!!). The whole set of allegations against him at the time was engineered by Trump’s pal, Roger Stone. The various women who conveniently “came forward” with exquisite timing immediately again disappeared after he resigned. One would have to go back to reports from December, 2017, to even find their names and allegations. This, of course, excludes Leeann Tweeden, who freely admitted she was part of the set-up.

Some of Al’s then-colleagues have apologized for being too quick to trash him (among them: Sheldon Whitehouse of RI, Jon Tester of MT, Bill Nelson of FL). Most have not. I did harbor a totally irrational resentment of Tina Smith for replacing him, but after meeting her, I came to my senses, and realized that she had nothing to do with what happened to Al.

Al still runs hot and cold about running for something, but he would not mount a primary challenge against either Minnesota Senator currently serving. Other possible positions just don’t interest him nearly as much, and anyone who has been around the United States Senate for any length of time would understand why. He still to this day has mixed feelings about whether he would even want to again serve alongside former colleagues who unjustly trashed him and never apologized.

At the time of Stone’s cleverly orchestrated scam in late 2017, we had several “one issue” posters on DU who showed up just to trash Al, and then faded when the issue was no longer current, though one seems to be back under another name. None of them knew Al or had even met him and/or Franni (they are still devoted, and no, Al has no such issues as described in any of the allegations). They didn’t even have mutual acquaintances. And yet someone who suddenly “came forward” with what sounded like coached dialog had greater credibility with said posters? Chacun à son goût, of course, but fortunately it wasn’t the goût of the vast majority of DU, or I would no longer have been here these past 7+ years.

Al was definitely a major thorn in Trump’s side in 2017, and Stone publicly announced in advance that he was planning something against Al. It was a dark moment for Senate Democrats when it turned out to be successful. I can well imagine that Stone was as surprised as anyone that his scheme actually worked. Had the Senate Democrats had Al’s back, he never would have left. I know, I know, Doug Jones, but still…

With his podcasts, live shows, etc., Al is keeping busy, but he never completely lost the shell shock from the betrayal by so many of his Senate colleagues, even though he misses what fellow Minnesotan Fritz Mondale called “the best job in the world.” He also sees the clock ticking as well as anyone else, and has (more or less) come to terms with seeing younger people step in. Still, it’s always easier to tell someone else to do that than to do it yourself.

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Yes JustAnotherGen Feb 2025 #1
Duh! You bet! marble falls Feb 2025 #2
Does he want to? Ocelot II Feb 2025 #3
He's already said he's not running. nt dflprincess Feb 2025 #9
And that is exactly the point. n/t elocs Feb 2025 #44
Yes - if he wants to. IF. dchill Feb 2025 #4
Yes but Walz would be a good senator also kimbutgar Feb 2025 #5
Peggy Flanagan, the Lt. Governor has already said she's running dflprincess Feb 2025 #11
he gets bounced, but Hegseth heads the DOD Skittles Feb 2025 #6
donnie rapist goes to the WH. rubbersole Feb 2025 #12
Well, it seems sexual assault is a prerequisite Bettie Feb 2025 #22
No. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2025 #7
my understanding is he put his arm around a Woman's waist while taking a picture in front of hundreds Eliot Rosewater Feb 2025 #8
Post removed Post removed Feb 2025 #15
Well, of course. Mr. Evil Feb 2025 #17
I would love DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #24
Epstein's black book Mr. Evil Feb 2025 #26
Just think of the names and pictures DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #28
Putin has everything. Mr. Evil Feb 2025 #29
So either you didn't read the articles or you're intentionally disregarding them EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #30
Are you comparing sexual assault/rape accusations by victims that have come forward publicly... W_HAMILTON Feb 2025 #41
Fucking infuriates me that anyone on this site is still pushing that Eliot Rosewater Feb 2025 #57
What about the seven other women? Jose Garcia Feb 2025 #50
Shhh SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #56
Yes! LSparkle Feb 2025 #10
He moved back to New York SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #13
I would like that mr715 Feb 2025 #14
Why not President? JoseBalow Feb 2025 #16
No. nt LexVegas Feb 2025 #18
Yes Stpaoulboy Feb 2025 #19
I absolutely hope he does. Mr. Evil Feb 2025 #20
Yes! Linda ladeewolf Feb 2025 #21
yes samaben Feb 2025 #23
Hell yes Codifer Feb 2025 #25
It doesn't matter what state he is in now. We need him.m n dreamland Feb 2025 #27
Yes - We will trade Texas Senators Cornyn and Cruz for Franken and throw in Ken Paxton for nothing. walkingman Feb 2025 #31
He's said he wouldn't run SCantiGOP Feb 2025 #32
Franken is great but we need new blood in congress Seasider Feb 2025 #33
F*** YES! Trueblue Texan Feb 2025 #34
Without a doubt JDAcme Feb 2025 #35
I think he should run for whatever office he wants to yaesu Feb 2025 #36
There are plenty of young people Buzz cook Feb 2025 #37
Yes LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2025 #38
Don't hold your breath DFW Feb 2025 #39
Thanks -- scrolled this thread to find your perspective. Pinback Feb 2025 #48
Absolutely not. NT Celerity Feb 2025 #40
He is 73 Renew Deal Feb 2025 #42
So, a spring chicken! LisaL Feb 2025 #45
Would Franken be more likely to win the general election than other Dem candidates? Martin Eden Feb 2025 #43
I fail to see why not. LisaL Feb 2025 #46
Hell yeah! BluenFLA Feb 2025 #47
Yes, please. Paladin Feb 2025 #49
I love Al but he lost his fastball a long time ago BeyondGeography Feb 2025 #51
I will never forgive the Dems for what they did to him - it was totally reprehensible! lark Feb 2025 #52
Yes- if he wants to go back. Sun-Moon Feb 2025 #53
No, Tim Walz should obamanut2012 Feb 2025 #54
Eyewitness account of Al Franken's last day in the Senate SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #55
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