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In reply to the discussion: President Biden was dumped for no reason [View all]Martin Eden
(15,723 posts)37. I sincerely doubt Musk would swing the election to Trump in a scenario with an open Dem primary
Musk was certainly a factor in the disinformation rampant in social media, but all other things being equal we can't know who would have been the Dem nominee and how that may have changed the dynamic of the campaign.
IMO the SCOTUS immunity ruling was an enormous factor outside the Democratic Party. Jack Smith had to reformulate his prosecutorial case, and that delay may have been the difference between Trump in the White House or prison.
In any event, I think the Democrats were badly handicapped by not having an open primary.
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Illegal immigration had been down during Biden's term and arrests were up.
travelingthrulife
Feb 2025
#67
There is a huge difference in "border crossings" and total undocumented living here. Border crossings were down under B
Jit423
Feb 2025
#81
Border crossings and undocumented people living here were both up under Biden.
Self Esteem
Feb 2025
#105
Irrelevant to my point. Border crossings and those living here illegally were up under Biden.
Self Esteem
Feb 2025
#137
If it was going to be such a win for Democrats, why didn't Biden do it when he had both the House and Senate?
Self Esteem
Feb 2025
#138
I think Dems fatal flaw is that they give people too much credit for being decent.
Trueblue Texan
Feb 2025
#10
"Biden Old" Should Have Been "Putin's Puppet Steals and Sells Nation's Secrets."
The_Counsel
Feb 2025
#58
The gender issue is still a big factor. We're one of the few G-7 or G-20 nations never to have a woman pres/pm.
brush
Feb 2025
#56
Your words are very true. In the past "Internet Years", I've tried to understand...
chouchou
Feb 2025
#25
if "they" could watch both men on a debate stage and not conclude that 1 of them was stark raving mad
rampartd
Feb 2025
#8
Pres Biden shouldve kept to his 2020 prediction & we shouldve had a real primary.
Callie1979
Feb 2025
#6
I doubt Harris would have won the primary, but whoever won would have been ELECTED
Martin Eden
Feb 2025
#14
I sincerely doubt Musk would swing the election to Trump in a scenario with an open Dem primary
Martin Eden
Feb 2025
#37
Pelosi said with great certainty in an interview a few days before the election that we would win the house.
Intractable
Feb 2025
#95
So then, any discussion of what went wrong or could have done differently is a "pout"?
Martin Eden
Feb 2025
#97
She won her debate. Biden did horribly. Thats why he left. She was hamstrung from the jump
Callie1979
Feb 2025
#24
The media stuck it to Biden while not reporting the bullshit from Trump. Was is fear or the plan?
twodogsbarking
Feb 2025
#15
Yes. Just like a lot of people who didn't watch the Harris-Trump debate heard about Trump's craziness.
Self Esteem
Feb 2025
#106
When asked the question about what she would do different than Biden, she said "nothing"
MichMan
Feb 2025
#77
He was dumped because of a consorted effort by the MSM to push him out. Anyone who viewed the media circus
JohnSJ
Feb 2025
#40
The propaganda fed to the Palestinian supporters IS THE REASON we lost this election
wolfie001
Feb 2025
#45
He was dumped for a very specific reason. He was about to get his ass handed to him.
Iggo
Feb 2025
#47
It was that terrible moment during the debate when Biden seemed lost and even Trump did a double take.
CTyankee
Feb 2025
#90
Videos like this had voters question Biden's fitness to lead and fed Republicans' narrative of Biden
DSandra
Feb 2025
#82
He was dumped because a right wing entertainment propaganda outlet appointed itself the 4th branch of the government.
Initech
Feb 2025
#88
Is this revisiting the reasons why Trump is now in the White House doing anyone any good?
Aussie105
Feb 2025
#107
Some of what you said makes sense but wishing for half our country to suffer wont get us anywhere
mahina
Feb 2025
#119
How do you imagine you will persuade them to join you to overcome this dictatorship? Or do you think we can do that
mahina
Feb 2025
#132