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Bluetus

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Sun Feb 16, 2025, 03:46 PM Feb 2025

OK, I'll be THAT guy. AI is a fraud. [View all]

AI is a fraud in the same sense that all the big buzzwords have always been massively deceptive and massively exaggerated. Think of "the Internet" in 1997. Everybody made wild claims about "the Internet", but very few knew what they were talking about. At the time, I worked in Silicon Valley, which was just crawling with people blathering about this.

In the end, 95% of those people and ideas were wrong. But the 5% went forward and, over the next 25 years, the Internet did become transformational. But none of what the Internet is today was predicted by the buzzword champs.

And that's where we are with AI today. There indeed are some apps where AI is doing some useful things. But in most cases, the best we get is a system that is completely unreliable, but may be able to occasionally present some "Gee whiz" results. A perfect example of this is Musk and his Swastikars. He has been promising fully self-driving "in a few months" for an entire decade now, yet the system is still at the primitive level-2 stage. It might eventually work, but it is not close today. Meanwhile others who have used different technologies, not nearly as dependent on AI, are much closer to the goal.

Another example is in the field of music. There are AI engines now that can take a pop song (e.g. from an MP3) and break that into separate rMP3s of drums, guitar, bass, piano and vocal. That is dazzling even though it is only about 90% accurate. That is to say, a trained human musician can identify 100% of the content from each instrument, but it would take a human many hours to create the separated streams, whereas AI can do it in a few minutes -- at a level that is useful, if not commercial-grade.

How much venture capital is being dumped into AI things? How much electricity is it burning? Some say AI will soon consume more than 10% of our total electricity generation.

That brings us to Musk and what he is doing to our government agencies. The big lie is that he is stealing the data because he can turn our government agencies into AI factories that need almost no people to handle everything government does. That is the fraud. So far, Musk hasn't produced a single AI solution that actually does what he promised. And this will be no different.

We have seen what health insurance companies can do with their computer systems. They can train them to deny claims faster than any human can. But it really doesn't take any AI to do that. And that is the same thing Musk is aiming for. Most of government is there to PROTECT the people. From air crashes. From pollution. From poisons. From ignorance. From rotten food. From financial scams. What the billionaires call "oppressive regulations" are actually simply consumer protections.

The game plan is to use the fraud of AI to break government completely. And you can believe that Elon intends to bill the government many billions of dollars for these fraudulent AI systems. The new systems will deny workers compensation for injuries. They will deny veteran benefits. They will send all the education money to charters. And so on. It really doesn't take AI to do all these things. And that's good for Musk because he, and AI, are frauds.

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Absolutely! SheltieLover Feb 2025 #1
It is also an aesthetic mr715 Feb 2025 #2
All I want for AI dweller Feb 2025 #3
Full-self driving is very close to fruition. I agree with the rest Ken Mosul Feb 2025 #4
FSD may be amazing, but there isn't a single person Bluetus Feb 2025 #7
I am involved in AI Henry203 Feb 2025 #5
Mind-blowing and actually working are two completely different things Bluetus Feb 2025 #9
It is funny that you mention that Henry203 Feb 2025 #10
Again, I agree it can be amazing. That's not the same as being brilliant. Bluetus Feb 2025 #11
You don't know what you are talking about Henry203 Feb 2025 #12
What's your point? Bluetus Feb 2025 #19
You really don't get it Henry203 Feb 2025 #40
I get your point but it also has a lot of real world applications. Quixote1818 Feb 2025 #6
AI generated songs and yt video narrations are something I can't stand yaesu Feb 2025 #8
Hype Maninacan Feb 2025 #13
AI has massive scientific, medical, and military research potential. Hanzzy72 Feb 2025 #14
Key word: "potential" Bluetus Feb 2025 #20
Artificial Intelligence is not "Hype." Tarzanrock Feb 2025 #15
And Waymo is 5 years ahead of Tesla because Bluetus Feb 2025 #21
The state of the art in AI is advancing almost daily-- no technology has moved forward this quickly andym Feb 2025 #16
By +/- 2030 a lot of Americans quite likely will be the owners of Tarzanrock Feb 2025 #17
I'm skeptical JoseBalow Feb 2025 #31
A few thoughts from an 87 year old........ BarbD Feb 2025 #18
Of course it is. That is why models trained on Twitter conversations Bluetus Feb 2025 #23
"...end up behaving like Putin's bots." Norrrm Feb 2025 #34
Could not disagree with you more. Yavin4 Feb 2025 #22
Kindly tell me what AI system exists today Bluetus Feb 2025 #24
That is something that AI could be trained to do in the very near future. Yavin4 Feb 2025 #26
Fine. In that case, the FAA should write a bid spec Bluetus Feb 2025 #28
You keep conflating Musk with AI Yavin4 Feb 2025 #29
If people want to roll the dice with their own money on the hopes of the next great AI app Bluetus Feb 2025 #33
AI in the medical field jeffreyi Feb 2025 #25
Many possibilities. It would be great to see pharmacies Bluetus Feb 2025 #37
Sky Net is very near to being a reality...When the AI has nukes we will obey.... wcmagumba Feb 2025 #27
I got involved with AI in the late 80s Jarqui Feb 2025 #30
Precisely. All the big buzzwords go this way. Bluetus Feb 2025 #36
Even these claims of AI Jarqui Feb 2025 #39
"AI" is a really general topic, tbh. Oneironaut Feb 2025 #32
AI is at the DotCom stage of development: overhyped underdelivered. DotCom gave way to DotBust about a quarter artemisia1 Feb 2025 #35
It's not there yet Johnny2X2X Feb 2025 #38
You may be giving "croporate planning" too much credit Bluetus Feb 2025 #41
I use perplexity and Claude and I'm amazed how good they are at responding... DSandra Feb 2025 #42
Indeed. Some AI tools are time-savers Bluetus Feb 2025 #43
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