Where is our Democratic leadership?

[Cirsium]

67. Good grief

"Demanding blind loyalty, saying that we all operate as uncritical fans cheering on our team, short circuits that important political process" does not equal "smearing and denigrating the party and our leadership." That is pretty obvious.

You say "people can disagree with me all day long, what do I care?" and then in the next sentence say that people are being disloyal and shitting on the party and our party's leaders when they disagree with you about the quality of the leadership and tactics and strategy. Clearly, you do very much care that people disagree with you.

I never said "Genocide Joe" nor "Killer Kamala" and did not agree with the people who did. If anyone said that here I didn't see it. Yes, many people in the Arabic community in Michigan voted against Harris/Walz over Gaza. That was completely misguided and cost us the state. Tragic, really. The Trump administration is much worse for the Palestinians, of course. The general election is the wrong time to cast protest votes.

I don't believe I have engaged in any lies, nor defended any lies. If you are going to make that accusation, you need to point out specifically what these lies are.

You think that my opinions are hurting the cause, I think that yours are. That is because we disagree about a few things, about the leadership we need, the approaches we should take, etc. That doesn't mean that either one of us is lying, or engaging in treachery, and so on. I agree with you about protest votes in the general election being a bad mistake. Wrong time, wrong action. That means in my view that now would be the time to hammer out differences, and that is what people are trying to do. You think that leads to third party voting, if I understand you correctly. We have an honest disagreement about that. It isn't the end of the world. It mirrors a long standing disagreement in the party between two broad factions.

"It is a mistake for anyone to frame this as 'disagreeing with me' but (once again, I repeat) the reality is that it's not about me. It's about someone's treachery and disloyalty to the party. When someone tries to redefine actual attacks and smears of Democrats as merely "disagreeing with me" they are promoting a false narrative."

But we are disagreeing, and you are accusing me of treachery and disloyalty, of promoting a false narrative. That obviously is divisive.

How have I thrown around insults or misrepresented your point of view?