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Celerity

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Thu Feb 20, 2025, 07:42 PM Feb 20

Americans Are Heading for the Exits [View all]



Go ahead and roll your eyes at those who want to emigrate amid Trump’s second term, but it’s a worrying trend.

https://newrepublic.com/article/191421/trump-emigration-wave-brain-drain




In February 2023, I published an article in The New Republic about Americans, particularly from marginalized communities, who were looking to exit the country amid the rise of gun violence and far-right politics. It had been some time since I’d thought about that piece. But almost exactly one year to the day after it was published, it garnered the attention of HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher, in which the show’s titular host featured it in a segment that ridiculed the notion of people fretting about their safety in this country, imploring us instead to stay here and make it a better place. Maher took great pains to condescendingly wonder if I knew that being gay is criminalized in dozens of countries—well, duh—and about capital punishment in China. (Unlike, Maher, I actually lived there for three years, so—once again—duh.)

Still, I was more or less flattered by the attention, despite the maladroit purposes to which my original piece was put. But if Maher is reading this, then I’d like to invite him over for a delicious slice of crow pie. Because now that Donald Trump and unelected sidekick Elon Musk are taking a wrecking ball to our country and its democracy, my prediction of two years ago is coming true amid a rise in worrying signs that many people in this country indeed have their eyes on the exits, including those with skill sets we can ill afford to lose.

On February 8, German newsmagazine Der Spiegel reported that the Max Planck Society—one of the world’s top scientific research institutions—is experiencing an uptick in applications from American scientists. Its president said the society regards the U.S. as “a new talent pool” at a time when the Trump administration seeks to cut billions in funding to the National Institutes of Health. There’s a deep historical irony in these recent developments: During the Third Reich, it was the Max Planck Society—then known as the Kaiser Wilhelm Society—that lost its best and brightest to the U.S. and other countries, including Albert Einstein.

A day prior, Irish broadcaster RTÉ reported that Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs has seen a 50 percent increase in the number of Americans seeking Irish passports, with some people specifically citing the new administration as a reason. Searches for terms like “dual citizenship” and “jus sanguinis” likewise saw significant spikes on Election Day and Inauguration Day, according to Google Trends. And a representative of Polaron, an Australian company that helps people obtain European citizenship by descent, told me that her firm has also “seen a steep increase in Americans wishing to leave their country, with many more keen to use their EU passport as a plan B.”

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Right! werdna Feb 20 #1
Assuming they're not from the right-wing states PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 20 #23
You need to read this again. phxjurist Feb 20 #43
Not at all surprised by this. Paladin Feb 20 #2
Maher Cirsium Feb 20 #25
Bill Maher has never been worth the time... dchill Feb 20 #32
He might be too busy talking to pre-pubescent girls about viagra and Carlitos Brigante Feb 20 #77
People have the right to feel safe. For many, that means leaving the country of their birth. Solly Mack Feb 20 #3
Exactly. Thank you very much for your understanding. You said it perfectly. Karasu Feb 20 #16
When you have to live in fear, you aren't doing much living at all. Solly Mack Feb 20 #22
If I were 30 without kids/responsibilities....I'd consider it. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 20 #4
Agree The Madcap Feb 20 #13
One of my kids has a chronic medical condition. He'd be stupid to remain here. Conjuay Feb 20 #65
I often wonder..... OAITW r.2.0 Feb 20 #68
When I was in my thirties with young kids I lived abroad twice ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Feb 21 #84
We are moving to Mexico lotusblossom Feb 20 #5
Nice. I am highly likely to move there myself, but there are a few other options on the table as well. Karasu Feb 20 #14
Best wishes with everything. Hope it all goes well. ED Evolve Dammit Feb 20 #26
How did you buy a house without being a Mexican citizen? LeftInTX Feb 20 #31
Not required lotusblossom Feb 20 #55
But it also required for us to be retired and pay in cash lotusblossom Feb 20 #62
Count me as one of those sdfernando Feb 20 #6
Good for those who can alarimer Feb 20 #7
Even retirement could be risky Blaukraut Feb 20 #9
True alarimer Feb 20 #11
We have figured that in lotusblossom Feb 20 #60
My husband have given this a lot of thought... Farmgirl1961 Feb 20 #8
I will never abandon my country to fascism Skittles Feb 20 #10
I have no desire ChazInAz Feb 20 #15
Many who left Germany Cirsium Feb 20 #29
Post removed Post removed Feb 20 #46
Are you having fun? GP6971 Feb 20 #51
I closed on my house in Costa Rica last Friday. Hoping to be completely free of the US by July 1. sinkingfeeling Feb 20 #12
Congrats! SheltieLover Feb 20 #20
Sounds like a good move. Best wishes for a smooth settling in. Enjoy the beautiful weather and scenery for us. Evolve Dammit Feb 20 #28
Loving freedom phxjurist Feb 20 #50
Congratulations! Celerity Feb 21 #81
Not easy to move kwolf68 Feb 20 #17
Yes I know how the author feels and moniss Feb 20 #18
If I could get out you bet your ass I would be gone in a heartbeat. Xavier Breath Feb 20 #19
My husband has completed all paperwork for Greek citizenship. BadgerMom Feb 20 #21
Greece is an amazing culture. People are wonderful. Best wishes! Evolve Dammit Feb 20 #33
Thanks. And agreed. BadgerMom Feb 20 #44
We were on an island this past summer. Two clinics and free health care! Evolve Dammit Feb 20 #64
Great! Thanks for sharing! BadgerMom Feb 20 #74
I was impressed. Just a bare ones clinic, but our traveling friend was x-rayed and given an inhlaer. 0.00 cost Evolve Dammit Feb 21 #86
I'm eligible for Armenian citizenship. Forget that language. LeftInTX Feb 20 #49
I hear you. BadgerMom Feb 20 #56
At least Greek language is 1,000 times easier than Armenian! LeftInTX Feb 20 #61
Stay and fight. Passages Feb 20 #24
IOW such exodus makes it easier for brain dead magats to take over. GreenWave Feb 20 #27
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Bye MAGAT. Evolve Dammit Feb 20 #34
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Trivia Question: What is DU's equivalet of a Welcome Wagon?? Answer in 5 GP6971 Feb 20 #47
How sad your life must be misanthrope Feb 20 #54
You seriously created an account here just to post this? LOL. Karasu Feb 20 #35
I look forward to your many years of positive contributions here at DU Orrex Feb 20 #37
fuck off magat troll tazcat Feb 20 #38
F**k you! punguin54 Feb 20 #39
Wll Hi!! I wouldn't plan on being here long. GP6971 Feb 20 #40
You still here? GP6971 Feb 20 #42
I'm blocking the f***wad. And I've alerted. BadgerMom Feb 20 #48
They're gone. GP6971 Feb 20 #57
That took way too many seconds. Pinback Feb 20 #59
Thanks! BadgerMom Feb 21 #80
Post removed Post removed Feb 20 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author hadEnuf Feb 20 #67
Back so soon??? GP6971 Feb 20 #69
Who is us? You do realize you might not GP6971 Feb 20 #70
Magats like you worship monied conservative fascists. hadEnuf Feb 20 #58
Post removed Post removed Feb 20 #71
Back again with you "witty" comments I see. Do you time yourself GP6971 Feb 20 #72
Don't worry, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 20 #73
I hope they're done for the night. Although GP6971 Feb 20 #75
Uh...The person who went on about Liberalism vs Leftism and using a tent metaphor? I have a maybe "silly" reason for electric_blue68 Feb 20 #76
Post removed Post removed Feb 21 #82
What a waste of space. n/t flvegan Feb 21 #83
I qualify for an Italian and Irish passports... Historic NY Feb 20 #36
I'm not sure if sagetea Feb 20 #41
You don't need to be NA to live on many reservations. LeftInTX Feb 20 #52
In the end, hardly anyone leaves. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 20 #53
You are correct. For proof, BidenRocks Feb 20 #78
I'm going to stay and fight for my country. OK, I'm white and entitled, so I understand that people who are Martin68 Feb 20 #66
Same thing happened in russia, just another nail in this shithole countries coffin. nt yaesu Feb 20 #79
kick BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 21 #85
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