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In reply to the discussion: MeidasTouch: MUSK LOSES BIG IN GERMANY. AfD is now likely to be completely shut out of the governing coalition. [View all]highplainsdem
(59,623 posts)14. Found an article explaining AfD support:
https://theconversation.com/these-maps-of-support-for-germanys-far-right-afd-lay-bare-the-depth-of-the-urban-rural-divide-248405
So. The same urban/rural split we see, plus the old East Germany where Nazi ideas survived, much more than in West Germany. The "lack of education about democracy" is especially telling.
I wish AfD had less support now. But I really think that Musk and Trump will turn more countries against the right than toward the right.
Its clear by looking at the map that most (though not all) of the AfDs strongholds are in eastern Germany the region which used to be the German Democratic Republic (GDR). Fascism and Nazism were outlawed by decree when this anti-fascist state was established but, in reality, far-right ideologies dont die off that easily. The result was that extremist views survived in an environment where there was also a lack of education on the National Socialism of the past and a lack of education about democracy.
When the socialist authoritarian GDR regime fell in 1989, Germany was reunified under western conditions. This had various effects, including a sense that the experiences of the east were not valued. The inequalities between the two sides of the reunified nation have left some in the east feeling distant from the state. The AfDs version of nationalism finds fertile ground here.
Another pattern is also clear across the whole country: the AfD is stronger in remote and rural areas and weaker in urban centres. There is less support in cities such as Berlin, Cologne, Dresden, Hamburg, Leipzig, Munich and Stuttgart. Places with more globalised cultures, international business and diverse populations remain comparably resilient to the spread of the far right.
When the socialist authoritarian GDR regime fell in 1989, Germany was reunified under western conditions. This had various effects, including a sense that the experiences of the east were not valued. The inequalities between the two sides of the reunified nation have left some in the east feeling distant from the state. The AfDs version of nationalism finds fertile ground here.
Another pattern is also clear across the whole country: the AfD is stronger in remote and rural areas and weaker in urban centres. There is less support in cities such as Berlin, Cologne, Dresden, Hamburg, Leipzig, Munich and Stuttgart. Places with more globalised cultures, international business and diverse populations remain comparably resilient to the spread of the far right.
So. The same urban/rural split we see, plus the old East Germany where Nazi ideas survived, much more than in West Germany. The "lack of education about democracy" is especially telling.
I wish AfD had less support now. But I really think that Musk and Trump will turn more countries against the right than toward the right.
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MeidasTouch: MUSK LOSES BIG IN GERMANY. AfD is now likely to be completely shut out of the governing coalition. [View all]
highplainsdem
Feb 2025
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