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Igel

(37,541 posts)
37. Yeah, but think it through.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 07:19 PM
Feb 2025

Let's say I'm a volunteer ballot counter.

I run through a list of 20 sets of votes and have a form next to me to keep some tally on. How easy is it to have my left hand slip as my right hand makes a tally mark on the other form or enters a number on a keypad?

Or maybe I'm just looking for ballot item 16 on a page and entering it--then instead of one person counting a ballot with just one option there needs to be 20 people. (And you're not going to get that many more volunteers.).

You recount just to be sure--so many places to make an error--and each recount introduces a different set of errors. Perhaps they all cancel out so you get a clean tally, perhaps they don't and you need a second round of recounting.

Now take one ballot I filled out a few years ago. Counted the things to vote for. 83.

Then there's the complexity that I can vote anywhere in the county. But the county contains a decent number of state legislative districts, judicial districts, federal House districts, along with local races. My ballot was different, quite likely, from most of those around me because I vote 15 miles from home. So my "line 19" wasn't line 19 for those around me--some of whom lived 15, 20 miles in the other direction from the polling place. Do they physically take my ballot to "my" precinct for counting? And if it's mis-sorted and sent 35 miles to the wrong counting place?

Yeah, that's not going to work. It's a nice idea until it crashes into reality in large population centers.

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We don't even have time enough to vote. yourout Feb 2025 #1
Yes keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #3
Maybe Rebl2 Feb 2025 #22
And now that DENVERPOPS Feb 2025 #26
Better yet, 100% mail-in voting. OMGWTF Feb 2025 #31
If we don't stop them, Elon's AI will be counting them Nictuku Feb 2025 #2
Correct keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #4
AI counting? Aussie105 Feb 2025 #6
Exactly keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #8
Yes. AI *LIES* We know this. Silver Gaia Feb 2025 #23
Can't happen here. Musk and the tech billionaires can't rig elections with hand count ballots. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #5
I'm optimistic keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #9
I sincerely hope you are correct. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #10
Me, too. Silver Gaia Feb 2025 #24
They one had one race to vote on didn't they? rurallib Feb 2025 #7
I don't know keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #12
They counted primary ballots by hand. Now a Texas county Republican party says they found errors. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #20
And this is when the SCOTUS stepped in to decide the race for us. slightlv Feb 2025 #36
the grim reality is that many voters have no clue at all what is going on cadoman Feb 2025 #48
Election conspiracy theories fueled a push to hand-count votes, but doing so is risky and slow LeftInTX Feb 2025 #21
Why would anyone want to count the entire county at once? questionseverything Feb 2025 #32
That's what they did. They only have 13 precincts. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #34
Aren't " county wide votes " reported precinct by precinct or not? questionseverything Feb 2025 #38
In my county, the precinct is determined by the ballot, not the location where it is cast. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #41
Yeah, but think it through. Igel Feb 2025 #37
Our elections are much more complicated than Germany's. Ocelot II Feb 2025 #11
When we get to the point of remaking the government once again, slightlv Feb 2025 #40
Article I of the Constitution gave the states the responsibility of overseeing the elections Ocelot II Feb 2025 #44
You're correct, of course, about Article I of the Constitution. slightlv Feb 2025 #46
One thing that definitely has to be Blue_Roses Feb 2025 #49
The people will decide Tickle Feb 2025 #50
That's how we ended up with Blue_Roses Feb 2025 #51
The fact that the population of Germany is about 1/4 that of the US might be a factor.... Sogo Feb 2025 #13
Ballots get counted at the precinct level, how big the entire country is has no barring questionseverything Feb 2025 #15
It's the ballots themselves. If you have one race, it's not so hard. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #18
No its not a factor. drray23 Feb 2025 #30
It's our ballot size. 30 races versus 2. LeftInTX Feb 2025 #33
This place reads like FR Mountainguy Feb 2025 #14
When Georgia's ballots were recounted many thousands of ballots were found questionseverything Feb 2025 #16
Those werent miscounts Mountainguy Feb 2025 #28
Whatever you want to call it, the first released totals were incorrect questionseverything Feb 2025 #29
What you call it can matter. Igel Feb 2025 #42
The people overseeing Mountainguy Feb 2025 #43
Facts about Germany's elections Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #17
Additional Facts on Germany Elections Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #19
Exactly. Our county would likely need to employ 50,000 people to accurately count votes! LeftInTX Feb 2025 #27
Gerrymandering doesn't matter for US presidential and Senate elections, either. n/t Igel Feb 2025 #45
Germany must desire fair elections. If our politicians really wanted fair elections, we would have them. Magoo48 Feb 2025 #25
Poll worker here: hand counting would be disatrous Wild blueberry Feb 2025 #35
That's actually pretty fast! LeftInTX Feb 2025 #39
Things were "off" and tallies weren't matching because hand counting is inaccurate and prone to mistakes MichMan Feb 2025 #52
That's because Germany organizes their elections differently: DetlefK Feb 2025 #47
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