I think people are really overlooking the biggest issue here.

[TorchTheWitch]

52. why does that make her irresponsible???

Having mental health issues doesn't instantly make one either suicidal or homicidal. Clearly she believed he was neither since not a soul who knew him best had any idea whatsoever that he could be either or both. She also knew through experience that he handled and used guns perfectly responsibly many times right up until the very moment she was murdered. How is it that this woman who loved her son would have kept guns in the house where she lived with her son if she had the slightest tiniest infinitesimal idea that he could be suicidal or homicidal? Just how the hell does that make any sense whatsoever???

I'm getting really tired of this flogging the mentally ill the vast majority of which would never consider using a gun to kill themselves or anyone else. Mental illness encompasses a HUGE spectrum and the only way to know if one's diagnosis includes suicidal or homicidal tendencies is if certain behaviors are displayed which he DIDN'T by every single account of those people who knew him the most. You and so many others here are blaming this woman for not being clairvoyant since this incident was the one and only time he ever displayed any kind of aggression or violent tendencies. And there has been infinitely more blaming here of a VICTIM of the incident than there has been of the very person who actually DID IT. HE was the one who committed this atrocious act. HE was the one who hid his worst demons from everyone else and from the very people who would have been the most desperate to want to help him. HE was the one responsible for what HE did yet DU is saturated in mommy blaming a VICTIM of what HE did. God fucking dammit, I want a reasonable explanation for that.

But I'm not going to get that because I already know what the explanation is though it's is anything but reasonable. Because the weapons used to commit this horrendous act were owned by her. That's IT. Is is more important to so many people here to blame not the person who actually DID the act but the person who simply owned the weapons that were used to do it because in yours and their minds ANYONE that owns a gun is a dangerous gun nut with zero responsibility in their use and storage, and you and they are so adamant about such an unreasonable opinion that people have been running all over DU flat out MAKING SHIT UP about this woman that has no basis in fact whatsoever like she's a "gun nut" or a kooky survivalist which NO ONE who knew her has ever claimed. What those people that knew her HAVE said is that she was a wonderful person and a loving and concerned parent who happened to enjoy shooting different types of guns at targets. Hey, I rather like shooting arrows in the direction of bulls eye's occasionally... does that somehow make me an irresponsible overly fearful kooky survivalist nut? Of course not, but ONLY because I use arrows instead of guns according to this ridiculous agenda.

I also have mental illness - mild depression, anxiety that is pretty acute and a phobia that's downright debilitating, so does that instantly make me unacceptable for gun ownership though I personally hate guns, would never shoot one or even want to touch one and won't have them around me at all since their very presence makes me unreasonably nervous? Of course not, and that's because my mental illness has NOTHING whatsoever to do with my ability or my responsibility concerning guns. Yet here you and so many others are instantly believing that because he had an unknown mental illness that absolutely NOBODY had an inkling that it made him either suicidal or homicidal and that somehow mom should have been clairvoyant and ridiculously believed to be at fault for having guns in a home she shared with her utterly unknown to her or anyone else suicidal and homicidal son. This victim blaming of the mother is flat out obvious pure agenda, and you and others are so agenda driven that you're willing to slam a VICTIM of this terrible incident even going so far as to totally make shit up about her. And that is just plain fucking SICKENING.

When was the last time anyone here blamed the mother of a mass murderer who was KNOWN to be a suicidal and homicidal mentally ill person and make up ridiculous crap about them that no person who knew them ever said about them? That's right, NEVER. And why? Because they didn't own the guns that their mass murdering son used but DID know their son was violently mentally ill.

This purely agenda driven shtick of blaming the very dead by her own son's hand VICTIM is as obvious as it is revolting, and every one here doing it should be fucking ashamed of yourselves.