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Honeycombe8

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11. I think it's misleading, too. Or doesn't represent what it intends to.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:57 AM
Dec 2012

There's no correlation between US troops and kids. There are many more kids than troops, and some troops are not in combat roles. So it's reasonable to assume that there would be more kids dying of various causes than the troops, no matter the cause. There were probably many more kids than troops who died of cancer, for example.

And comparing the deaths of blacks by guns with lynchings is like comparing apples and oranges. I guess the graph is meant to say that if you are outraged by lynchings, then you should be equally outraged by deaths by gun. Fair enough. But the lynchings were by certain people for a certain reason, and that's a big part of that outrage. The gun deaths may result from other blacks killing blacks, or other races killing blacks for reasons other than race. So you wouldn't necessarily get the same kind of outrage. If two guys are drunk and fighting and one kills another with a gun, well, that's not quite the same thing as a lynching of an innocent stranger by the KKK because he's black.

There are better graphs out there to show gun violence, though.

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Two U.S. graphs. [View all] Robb Dec 2012 OP
misleading bossy22 Dec 2012 #1
Children dying of gang-related, gun violence shouldn't be considered? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #3
Well, you know. Robb Dec 2012 #4
I'm with you Gore1FL Dec 2012 #5
Two stories. Two graphs. Robb Dec 2012 #7
Because that is how graphs work. Gore1FL Dec 2012 #10
Bullshit. Both graphs are in proportion. Robb Dec 2012 #14
If you wish to compare apples to oranges they are awesome. Gore1FL Dec 2012 #16
Careful, you might hurt my internet feelings. Robb Dec 2012 #21
What? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #23
Show me one study that calls 25 year-olds "teens." Robb Dec 2012 #6
Lots to be found at the Brady/VPC site. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #12
Show me one. Robb Dec 2012 #13
Do your own homework. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #19
You made the claim. Clearly an untrue one. Robb Dec 2012 #20
Whether or not you choose to believe them, ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #25
So knock the top 40% off and it's still a fucking horror show. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #8
0-19. And your post is massively racist. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #9
I think it's misleading, too. Or doesn't represent what it intends to. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #11
It makes a similar, if opposite, argument to that made about cars. Robb Dec 2012 #15
So the car graphs are valid? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #17
Who are you talking to? Robb Dec 2012 #22
You. Do you read your own subject lines? Gore1FL Dec 2012 #24
your defense pisses me off. spanone Dec 2012 #26
Thanks for the graphs - very enlightening and puts the carnage into perspective. byeya Dec 2012 #2
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #18
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