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Oopsie Daisy

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131. Mirrors don't care about virtue signaling. It takes more than that to effect real change.

Thu Feb 27, 2025, 07:57 PM

Feb 2025

A one-day boycott of this type accomplishes nothing EXCEPT (as you point out) some folks want to look in the mirror and admire their participation award. Frankly, I've always thought that participation trophies diminish the value of actual achievement by rewarding and heaping praise on mere participation and putting forth a minimal effort, rather than acknowledging actual excellence or genuine success. I believe it undermines the importance of hard work, skill development... when just doing nothing is viewed as a measure of success.

The "oligarchs" and stockholders and ceo's do not look at hourly or daily sales reports. I promise you. I also assure you that there are no quick-fixes. Whatever "instant gratification" (or pride and self-admiration) this may bring for anyone will be short lived when reality sets in.

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After careful consideration, I have decided that the 24 Hour Economic Blackout is bullshit. [View all] PeaceWave Feb 2025 OP

People get activated into movements by a wide variety of on-ramps. A day of economic inaction is not the WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2025 #1

this. Sure, this is just flexing our muscles a bit, not hitting hard. unblock Feb 2025 #7

Plus, it's another way to show the number of the opposition cally Feb 2025 #38

I can just see the first person/persons talking about protesting the VN war Bengus81 Feb 2025 #173

Exactly! mcar Feb 2025 #103

Funny how that has to be explained to people that are Dems and on DU Bengus81 Feb 2025 #169

Tend to agree Pull_Left Feb 2025 #2

not the point Shellback Squid Feb 2025 #20

What is the point? Mariana Feb 2025 #24

google is your friend Shellback Squid Feb 2025 #32

Seems like the point is to buy stuff on Thursday or Saturday instead of Friday. Mariana Feb 2025 #37

Post #1 will answer your question. Emile Feb 2025 #180

Yep, make a big deal about not buying on Friday, just wait until Saturday. elocs Feb 2025 #63

Bud Lite. Voltaire2 Feb 2025 #72

I'm not impressed. NNadir Feb 2025 #3

It's fine to buy food, medicine, and other essentials tomorrow. yardwork Feb 2025 #4

The same amount of money in total will be spent before and after, but Ocelot II Feb 2025 #5

Most of the consumers aren't deciding not to consume. Mariana Feb 2025 #31

Of course. But the point of the exercise is to demonstrate what *could* happen Ocelot II Feb 2025 #35

Why not actually cut back on consumption in the first place? Mariana Feb 2025 #45

This is a weird flex. intheflow Feb 2025 #114

The point is that many people aren't consuming less even for one day. Mariana Feb 2025 #127

For one thing, it trains people for longer and sustained actions in the future. intheflow Feb 2025 #142

People will be doing that anyway, Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #154

Exactly StarryNite Feb 2025 #118

Exactly StarryNite Feb 2025 #119

I likewise think this "24 hours of no buying" is PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2025 #6

Especially if the plan is to stock up the days before and after. Frasier Balzov Feb 2025 #12

Yep. PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 2025 #54

Who "stocks up"? Hell food is so fucking expensive at the store we just buy ONLY Bengus81 Feb 2025 #170

People who shop at Costco Jose Garcia Feb 2025 #184

Well intentioned but not well thought through. elocs Feb 2025 #64

Blocking. Thanks for nothing Captain Zero Feb 2025 #146

Later. Captain Zero Feb 2025 #147

You think this is going to be the only one? Bengus81 Feb 2025 #166

I agree Progressive dog Feb 2025 #8

no, it's every business, it is a statement Shellback Squid Feb 2025 #18

You can do that if youwish Progressive dog Feb 2025 #23

whatever Shellback Squid Feb 2025 #26

Boycotts only tend to work if they are focused and local. elocs Feb 2025 #66

Was that boycott on Bud light by those MAGA idiots only local? Bengus81 Feb 2025 #164

On Bud Light? Sounds focused to me and that's why it worked. elocs Feb 2025 #185

It's something I CAN do! Dorothy V Feb 2025 #9

Me too since I'm poor and not buying anything on Friday anyways. elocs Feb 2025 #69

This is a trivially easy act of resistance. WTAF Voltaire2 Feb 2025 #10

So is shouting at clouds. That, too is trivially easy and totally ineffective at accomplishing anything. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #75

Gosh, I guess so angrychair Feb 2025 #94

A one-day boycott is equivalent to a spoiled child "holding their breath until they turn blue" as a form of coercion. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #98

I could just as easily angrychair Feb 2025 #109

Well, you could say that. But it would indicate a lack of understanding and patience * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #117

We don't have years to build up angrychair Feb 2025 #122

Nobody will care. Nobody will notice. It's a waste of time and effort. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #123

Bye-bye. (nt) Paladin Feb 2025 #187

Whew! Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #200

Fine. ariadne0614 Feb 2025 #112

I never suggested that people aren't fee to "boycott as they please" * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #120

As you said/I said, "to each his own." ariadne0614 Feb 2025 #121

Mirrors don't care about virtue signaling. It takes more than that to effect real change. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #131

Mmmhm. . . ariadne0614 Feb 2025 #143

The least amount of effort * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #149

Sometimes less is more. ariadne0614 Feb 2025 #153

LOL. 🤡🥸 Only in fashion... Not politics. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #155

How is it "a waste of time"? thucythucy Feb 2025 #160

Why would anyone spend such an inordinate amount of time "organizing" such an ineffective boycott? Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #163

Isn't it also a waste of time to try to argue folks thucythucy Feb 2025 #192

No... what good purpose is served by luring people into doing absolutely nothing * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #195

Have to run to a meeting thucythucy Feb 2025 #199

I think we're done here anyway. We're talking past each other... Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #203

Again...this will NOT be the only economic blackout. It will be longer and grow. Bengus81 Feb 2025 #168

No it won't. A more likely outcome will be * Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #177

LOL...You don't know who's doing the organizing? It's only been planned now for 2-3 weeks Bengus81 Feb 2025 #178

There ya go! Nobody knows, nobody cares. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #181

LOL...you still admit you don't know who organized this blackout. Funny!! Bengus81 Feb 2025 #182

Well, I counted at least 4 alternatives listed in their post. yagotme Feb 2025 #183

There are targeted boycotts angrychair Feb 2025 #193

Those won't work either. It will take longer than a week. Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #197

I get the point you are trying to make angrychair Feb 2025 #201

I've been very clear and never said that "nothing is worth doing" Oopsie Daisy Feb 2025 #205

+1000 Bengus81 Feb 2025 #167

Yes because everyone owns property ibegurpard Feb 2025 #11

Requires large enough yard, plenty of sun (ie, few or no trees) and water, spooky3 Feb 2025 #36

Your larder runs deep. I can last until May Day I think. bucolic_frolic Feb 2025 #13

we'll miss you and I don't consider you a scab Shellback Squid Feb 2025 #14

yeah, scabs are people who cross the picket lines DoBW Feb 2025 #30

I want a smart Tv for my bedroom. We discussed going tomorrow, but then I remembered the boycott. Raftergirl Feb 2025 #15

We recently bought 2 TVs (24" and 32"), $153 for both Freddie Feb 2025 #46

Yeah, I don't want too big, 32" would work. The one now is 24".Needs to go on my bureau because I can't lose Raftergirl Feb 2025 #49

The one locally owned appliance store nearby Freddie Feb 2025 #53

We still have a few. One is super expensive and do huge home entertainment theaters , etc. Their sets start around Raftergirl Feb 2025 #106

I can remember when a 23" b&w tv was huge. n/t elocs Feb 2025 #77

I had like a 8" or 10" b&w tv in my kitchen for years. It was a give away at my dad's company's Xmas party Raftergirl Feb 2025 #99

I've wanted a 4K for years,now the prices are down. I won't be buying though until Trump is gone Bengus81 Feb 2025 #175

Direct deposits and payments will be made tomorrow as scheduled MerryBlooms Feb 2025 #16

This is why we keep losing. Basso8vb Feb 2025 #17

Can you sign up for a CSA. We have had a half share since the pandemic. Love it. We get produce once a week Raftergirl Feb 2025 #42

It is ONE DAY Voltaire2 Feb 2025 #51

We keep losing because we seem to be unable to simply show up and vote elocs Feb 2025 #81

That's one thing that MAGOTS and Republians are good at Bengus81 Feb 2025 #179

The boycott is on non essentials Clouds Passing Feb 2025 #19

Who gets to decide what is essential? elocs Feb 2025 #83

Food and medicine. Clouds Passing Feb 2025 #86

Incandescent light bulbs can be cool. Torchlight Feb 2025 #21

If you wanted to say something negative, how about wait till after it went down instead of kneecapping it ahead of time? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #22

Thank-you. Why discourage it before it even happens? JohnSJ Feb 2025 #78

... Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #25

OK happy feet Feb 2025 #27

Food and medicine are not included. That's specifically mentioned Arazi Feb 2025 #28

Just pick another day to do your boycotting if this day is so important to your shopping efforts. Everyone will SWBTATTReg Feb 2025 #29

No, Friday is great since I'm poor and not buying anything that day anyways. n/t elocs Feb 2025 #70

By itself, one time is clearly not enough. I hope that part of the idea is to spark interest in long term boycotts Blasphemer Feb 2025 #33

Yes. This is another good reason to do the boycott. It is a beginning. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #140

You do you Jilly_in_VA Feb 2025 #34

Trying to make a small dip in the "spending data" trend line is an almost painless way of protesting. Grumpy Old Woman Feb 2025 #39

yeah , probably not a good dweller Feb 2025 #40

I'm so thankful my parents and their generation were not so wishy washy..they stuck to their word Deuxcents Feb 2025 #41

For four long years they did without etc. Mariana Feb 2025 #89

Thank you but you missed my point and that being this is only a one day event..not a long term Deuxcents Feb 2025 #124

If people are buying on Thursday and Saturday so they can skip Friday Mariana Feb 2025 #125

It isn't about giving things up. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #139

You keep saying this. thucythucy Feb 2025 #161

EVERYTHING we try will make a difference. Oligarchs get their wealth and power Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #138

"But, but, but I must have my latte and brioche." - Sunshine Patriots BoRaGard Feb 2025 #43

I probably wasn't going to buy anything anyway. maxsolomon Feb 2025 #44

I'm doing a 4 yr + economic boycott, only buying Canadian goods if I need anything outside of local food needs. nt yaesu Feb 2025 #47

This is my goal as well. nt Blasphemer Feb 2025 #71

Me too. Food, fuel and emergencies. But I think the one day boycott is a good message to send. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #137

Wow, that was tone-deaf synni Feb 2025 #48

Excellent response! Gimpyknee Feb 2025 #113

It's a statement. It's a start. Gore1FL Feb 2025 #50

Than don't do anything. The status quo is just fine. bif Feb 2025 #52

I will participate, but I agree... Mike Nelson Feb 2025 #55

People can just shop the day before or after. Mariana Feb 2025 #87

This was posted just to rile folks up. bif Feb 2025 #56

Thank you for noticing this. I'm a little surprised so many people Mike 03 Feb 2025 #67

I was going to comment further bif Feb 2025 #92

We should have a DUU nilram Feb 2025 #206

Nope. Any form of resistance is welcome. Gardening works for you, great. Phoning, emailing, confronting legislators, Timeflyer Feb 2025 #57

I thought it was solely an economic blackout of Trump supporting businesses AStern Feb 2025 #58

Yes, exactly! PLEASE at least boycott AMAZON and WALMART !!! LymphocyteLover Feb 2025 #60

I'm sorry but this seems incredibly petty LymphocyteLover Feb 2025 #59

Are you saying to all those who are taking part and want a display of consumer power and Doodley Feb 2025 #61

I'm saying that because small and focused & local boycotts are the successful ones. elocs Feb 2025 #74

Who is being hurt by it? Doodley Feb 2025 #80

How will it be known exactly who is being hurt? elocs Feb 2025 #84

To be clear, are you against this action? Doodley Feb 2025 #91

Yes, because it will not have a significant impact elocs Feb 2025 #134

You haven't been able to say who these people are that will be hurt. The reason is nobody will be hurt. Doodley Feb 2025 #162

No one will be hurt by it. Mariana Feb 2025 #85

whatever stillcool Feb 2025 #62

A one day boycott seems pointless, if the spending is merely shifted to a different RockRaven Feb 2025 #65

I disagree. Strongly. The boycott has many purposes. One of them is solidarity. It is saying, "This is what we can do. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #135

I shopped on my payday Marthe48 Feb 2025 #68

Don't participate then. Kingofalldems Feb 2025 #73

Laughable. live love laugh Feb 2025 #76

I would start with 1 month... S/V Loner Feb 2025 #79

And...that's where this movement is headed. You have to crawl before you walk Bengus81 Feb 2025 #176

OP posted and ran away from an active thread. Is the motive disruption? Post and run is symptomatic. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2025 #82

Did you notice the 14%? Kingofalldems Feb 2025 #96

It's exactly because it's a busy shopping day that it was picked relayerbob Feb 2025 #88

missing one Friday sale is too big an ask? mike_c Feb 2025 #90

There's always going to be someone. I think tomorrow will be good for all of us who participate. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #129

How dare you call a plan to fight back Nazis 'bullshit'. Kingofalldems Feb 2025 #93

After a nanosecond of consideration, I realized that this OP is bullshit. Pinback Feb 2025 #95

Just ask Target DownriverDem Feb 2025 #97

If people had decided to stop shopping at Target for just one day Mariana Feb 2025 #130

I wish I could do this but I seem to have black thumbs. joanbarnes Feb 2025 #100

Gee, sorry it inconveniences you mcar Feb 2025 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner Feb 2025 #102

Economic blackout is extended to the big tech companies like Google, Comcast, AT & T, Verizon, etc. too ? MichMan Feb 2025 #104

Turning off my Xfinity box @midnight ! Captain Zero Feb 2025 #145

Over 70% of population lives payday to payday womanofthehills Feb 2025 #105

The request isn't absolute IbogaProject Feb 2025 #107

I'm firmly commited to it! Richard D Feb 2025 #108

Suit yourself! Why the fuss? Hope22 Feb 2025 #110

I went to Sam's to get some twirly birds Keepthesoulalive Feb 2025 #111

This is a REALLY important point. It's as much about solidarity as anything else. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #128

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil SocialDemocrat61 Feb 2025 #115

Thanks for sharing Blues Heron Feb 2025 #116

So don't do it. I think it's an excellent idea. I'm all in. Scrivener7 Feb 2025 #126

Ok so you can't do it. That's ok. Captain Zero Feb 2025 #132

I disagree. phylny Feb 2025 #133

After careful consideration senseandsensibility Feb 2025 #136

If I have big bags of rice, lentils, and dried fruit in my pantry I'm happy. hunter Feb 2025 #141

This is all about a show of unity. CareyOn Feb 2025 #144

It needs to be longer term, say 3 years and 10 months... AntiFascist Feb 2025 #148

Agreed. At its core, it's yet more meaningless "virtue signaling" at best. Hellbound Hellhound Feb 2025 #150

Of course its bullshit. It only matters if you stop using Amazon TOTALLY Callie1979 Feb 2025 #151

Then don't take part. hatrack Feb 2025 #152

I wish we could all quit Amazon kenziemom06 Feb 2025 #156

I used to buy pretty much everything from Amazon over the years. No I can go a year without buying there Bengus81 Feb 2025 #174

You know better than Robert Reich? Easterncedar Feb 2025 #157

+1000. Paladin Feb 2025 #171

"I say this as a gardener." Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #189

Bomb dropped in the forum, 100s of responses, no reply Prairie Gates Feb 2025 #188

The primary issue I see against tomorrow is that it's the end of the month. haele Feb 2025 #158

I trust you PeterIsMyBrother Feb 2025 #159

So instead sit at home,watch the latest outrage on MTN/BTC and shout at the TV Bengus81 Feb 2025 #165

this is to establish a baseline for future methods of resistance... samnsara Feb 2025 #172

If we want to upend the oligarchy lets cancel Christmas. Mosby Feb 2025 #186

It is NOT bullshit. It's unity. The point is unity! nolabear Feb 2025 #190

Every act of resistance helps GoreWon2000 Feb 2025 #191

More boycotts NJCher Feb 2025 #194

Why do you feel the need to trash the idea? If you don't want to participate that's fine. Just move along. Hotler Feb 2025 #196

As a first step and effort, it's not BS at all Chakaconcarne Feb 2025 #198

If missing today's sale is going to break your bank then go get your cookies or whatever. nilram Feb 2025 #202

Bless your heart. jrthin Feb 2025 #204