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In reply to the discussion: The violent videogames. Yes, they are a contributor. [View all]OhioChick
(23,218 posts)99. Most med school students/surgeons game
Surgeons With Video Game Skill Appear To Perform Better In Simulated Surgery Skills Course
In a study involving 12 surgeons and 21 surgical residents, video game skill was correlated with laparoscopic surgery skill as assessed during a simulated surgery skills course, according to a report in the February issue of Archives of Surgery, one of the JAMA/Archives journals.
James C. Rosser Jr., M.D., of Beth Israel Medical Center, New York, and colleagues asked 33 surgeons (21 residents and 12 attending physicians) about their video game--playing habits, then assessed their performance at the Rosser Top Gun Laparoscopic Skills and Suturing Program, a one-and-a-half day course that scores surgeons on time and errors during simulated surgery drills. During the study, conducted from May through August, 2002, the surgeons also played three video games for 25 minutes while the researchers assessed their gaming skills.
Of the surgeons who participated in the study, 15 reported never playing video games, nine reported playing zero to three hours per week, and nine reported playing more than three hours per week at the height of their video game playing. "Surgeons who had played video games in the past for more than three hours per week made 37 percent fewer errors , were 27 percent faster and scored 42 percent better overall than surgeons who never played video games. Current video game players made 32 percent fewer errors, were 24 percent faster and scored 26 percent better overall than their non-player colleagues," the authors write. Those in the top one-third of video gaming skill made 47 percent fewer errors, performed 39 percent faster and scored 41 percent better on the overall Top Gun score than those in the bottom one-third.
"Training curricula that include video games may help thin the technical interface between surgeons and screen-mediated applications, such as laparoscopic surgery," the authors conclude. "Video games may be a practical teaching tool to help train surgeons."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070220012341.htm
In a study involving 12 surgeons and 21 surgical residents, video game skill was correlated with laparoscopic surgery skill as assessed during a simulated surgery skills course, according to a report in the February issue of Archives of Surgery, one of the JAMA/Archives journals.
James C. Rosser Jr., M.D., of Beth Israel Medical Center, New York, and colleagues asked 33 surgeons (21 residents and 12 attending physicians) about their video game--playing habits, then assessed their performance at the Rosser Top Gun Laparoscopic Skills and Suturing Program, a one-and-a-half day course that scores surgeons on time and errors during simulated surgery drills. During the study, conducted from May through August, 2002, the surgeons also played three video games for 25 minutes while the researchers assessed their gaming skills.
Of the surgeons who participated in the study, 15 reported never playing video games, nine reported playing zero to three hours per week, and nine reported playing more than three hours per week at the height of their video game playing. "Surgeons who had played video games in the past for more than three hours per week made 37 percent fewer errors , were 27 percent faster and scored 42 percent better overall than surgeons who never played video games. Current video game players made 32 percent fewer errors, were 24 percent faster and scored 26 percent better overall than their non-player colleagues," the authors write. Those in the top one-third of video gaming skill made 47 percent fewer errors, performed 39 percent faster and scored 41 percent better on the overall Top Gun score than those in the bottom one-third.
"Training curricula that include video games may help thin the technical interface between surgeons and screen-mediated applications, such as laparoscopic surgery," the authors conclude. "Video games may be a practical teaching tool to help train surgeons."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070220012341.htm
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Except of course that there is zero evidence for causality or correlation.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#1
Why don't you provide some links to ACTUAL peer reviewed scientific studies then
Matariki
Dec 2012
#182
except there is. mixed studies for sure, but to say there is zero evidence is wrong.
cali
Dec 2012
#38
Actually, I've read a couple of articles that said he was a "gamer," but were they accurate? idk.
reformist2
Dec 2012
#5
Oh, what nonsense! IF he did it was Hello Kitty...you know, that kind of game.
Safetykitten
Dec 2012
#6
"He is said to have been a fan of computer games featuring warfare and killing."
Cobalt Violet
Dec 2012
#70
Hell hath no fury like a video gamer and beloved violent games being attacked.
Safetykitten
Dec 2012
#4
Yep. I love the personal anecdotes of peace-loving gamers... as if that proves anything.
reformist2
Dec 2012
#7
The only thing lacking proof is your extraordinary claim that violent video games are dangerous.
Kurska
Dec 2012
#11
Used to be comic books. Whatever. I think I know who is really delusional in this argument.
CBGLuthier
Dec 2012
#9
Me too. There should loads of us from the 70s and 80s out rampaging now, except that
GreenPartyVoter
Dec 2012
#173
It's the phenomenon of "I don't do or own<insert hobby or item here> therefore it should be banned"
Puzzledtraveller
Dec 2012
#98
It's not stupid at all. In fact, dismissing the idea out of hand reduces your credibility.
reformist2
Dec 2012
#28
There are a lot of psycho kids in other countries, they just don't have access to guns.
reformist2
Dec 2012
#167
You see, killing people on screen in uber violent specatacles has nothing to do with anything.
Safetykitten
Dec 2012
#42
It is ignorant to think that there was just one simple answer. It can be a toxic stew of medication,
Pisces
Dec 2012
#66
Refusing to answer a stupid question doesn't mean I lost the argument
proud2BlibKansan
Dec 2012
#125
I just played Glow Fish. It's a maze where you encircle aggressive fish and turn them into "friends"
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#155
I've played very violent video games for years. I own no gun. I have no desire to hurt anyone.
phleshdef
Dec 2012
#89
That is you. Are you on medication for mental health issues, are you diagnosed ADHD, were you abused
Pisces
Dec 2012
#101
You could replace "violent video games" with "violent books", "violent music", "violent whatever".
phleshdef
Dec 2012
#130
But you are contributing to the violent currents in our collective consciousness.
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#156
Things like what you just said make me want to violently scoop my eyes out with a spoon.
phleshdef
Dec 2012
#165
on what do you blame the violence that occured BEFORE there were violent video games?
leftyohiolib
Dec 2012
#90
yes they create a spining vortex of pure evil, an opening of the very mouth of hell out of which
leftyohiolib
Dec 2012
#194
My son is not allowed to play his shooter games for at least until after the new year...
cynatnite
Dec 2012
#100
That took longer than I expected. And what do all of these 'causes' have in common? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#122
Find the statistics that show crime going up with video game usage, I'll eat my hat.
Exultant Democracy
Dec 2012
#129
Sorry, I was too busy reading The Catcher In The Rye while listening to Judas Priest backwards
thelordofhell
Dec 2012
#132
I though about that angle as well but the kids weren't the only thing important to his mother
Uncle Joe
Dec 2012
#143
Definitely want to add the Bible to your list of violent things to throw out.
Matariki
Dec 2012
#185
Not buying this. MILLIONS play video games in countries that have no massacres like ours.
ancianita
Dec 2012
#158
That's because they don't have guns. It doesn't disprove the idea that video games are a problem.
reformist2
Dec 2012
#168
They don't have guns? Got any proof of that? A number of them have legalized gun ownership.
ancianita
Dec 2012
#195
Yes, anything except the obvious, i.e. the fact that he used a gun designed to kill lots of people.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2012
#160
I shot a gun once when I was a kid. Hated it. I don't even like games with guns.
dogknob
Dec 2012
#175
The glorification of violence is a big factor, but doens't fit the agenda, so
Skip Intro
Dec 2012
#179