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Ms. Toad

(38,351 posts)
39. No. It doesn't.
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 02:55 PM
Mar 2025

It is a voluntary association of attorneys which help attorneys network, provides legal education, advocates for/drafts uniform laws, and accredits law schools. Basically it is a club for attorneys and people who care about the law in the United States.

Licensing is controlled by each jurisdiction or the court (e.g. federal courts have separate admission requirements). These entities are loosely referred to as the bar for the jurisdiction. (The ABA is NOT a bar). The bar in each jurisdiction has a disciplinary process - generally carried out by at least two tiers of hearings (the initial and an appeal of some sort). As a general rule - anyone can make a complaint about an attorney. Courts who adjudicate legal complaints about an attorney can refer an attorney to the ethics committee. In some instances, a committee may be able to self-initiate a complaint. Unless witnesses are called by the ethics committee, there is no opportunity for external input. They act pretty much like a court - no one gets to jump in from the outside and tell/suggest how the committee should decide.

The bar of each jurisdiction may adopt the Model Rules of Professional Conduct (drafted by the ABA) - or not. If they choose to adopt them, they may modify them. (The same goes for the multitude of model laws written by the ABA). That adoption of an ethics code is generally a decision made by the highest court in that jurisdiction. But all they are doing is adopting (or not) a set of rules - not advice on how they should apply the rules in any particular case. It's roughly the same process that happens in a legislative body - the body adopts the laws (which might consider a model rule drafted by the ABA) and a distinct group (the courts) decides whether any individual person violated the law.

Just as the ABA wouldn't jump into a court dispute over whether someone violated a rule they drafted - which was adopted by a state, they wouldn't jump into a disciplinary matter over whether someone violated the ethical rule they drafted - even if the bar in that jurisdiction adopted the rules drafted by the verbatim. The ABA's involvement in the law is limited to proposing a framework - not intervening in cases applying that framework to a particular person.

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Kick SheltieLover Mar 2025 #1
The present DOJ and AG..... Lovie777 Mar 2025 #2
How very courageous. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #3
Rec x100! TheRickles Mar 2025 #4
You might want to fact check before recommending. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #11
OK, so how about the ABA censuring, disapproving, adverse recommendation, etc.? TheRickles Mar 2025 #15
First - I have no idea whether any of these "bad actors" are members of the ABA. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #17
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed and informative reply. Much appreciated. TheRickles Mar 2025 #28
I'm pretty sure they can influence disbarment proceeedings LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #34
You would be wrong. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #37
OK, but the ABA never has a say in that process? LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #38
No. It doesn't. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #39
OK, thanks for that! LymphocyteLover Mar 2025 #40
Thanks for sharing. It's sad that while many of us are trying to figure out what we can do, those who LT Barclay Mar 2025 #5
The ABA has nothing to do with disbarring attorneys. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #10
This is absolutely false. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #9
So tell us about the bar that has kept faith with the law. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #12
The American Bar Association is not a bar. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #16
We can ignore "sanctioning". That's ridiculous in context. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #20
Again - you slammed the ABA. The ABA has zero to do with the complaints you have. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #22
Don't give me that Nuremberg bullshit. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #23
I said absolutely nothing about excusing illegal behavior Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #24
Again, no. No ambiguity. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #25
Then there is no need for the courts, since everything is clear. Ms. Toad Mar 2025 #26
Dude, just take the L. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2025 #35
Using a technicality to defang a painful fact is a very lawyerly tactic. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #36
Christ, just stop digging. thebigidea Mar 2025 #41
Ditto. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #42
The American Bar Association has no authority to disbar anyone. TomSlick Mar 2025 #29
All hands on deck Bluetus Mar 2025 #6
Very Important malaise Mar 2025 #7
Leadership through fear and intimidation leads to nowhere good BOSSHOG Mar 2025 #8
Fantastic 👍👍😁😁 TommieMommy Mar 2025 #13
Not for nothing, they're a voice. ancianita Mar 2025 #14
Not all heroes wear capes some file briefs Maeve Mar 2025 #18
That's all? They need to come together to legally fight for the country. live love laugh Mar 2025 #19
I'm a lawyer and heckles65 Mar 2025 #21
The ABA released its statement ... DoBW Mar 2025 #27
How about they disbar anyone associated with this fascist government? nt Javaman Mar 2025 #30
Well then... 2naSalit Mar 2025 #31
Good News blueseas Mar 2025 #32
Weak tea, indeed dlk Mar 2025 #33
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