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Playingmantis

(604 posts)
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 07:48 PM Mar 2025

Why Democrats and liberals FAIL .. great article Must read [View all]


"The emerging strategy for opposition to the coming nightmare of a Trump presidency and a GOP Congress seems to be one of utmost caution. Show the public that you’re eager to reach across the aisle and work with Republicans, and if you get rebuffed, you’ll be able to say you tried.

(snip)

The standard line from Democrats right now is “our preference is to secure bipartisan solutions wherever possible and look for ways to collaborate with our Republican colleagues to help working families,” but “we will always stand up for our values.”

That’s from Sen. Chuck Schumer, and the reason this is the talking point so many of them are repeating is that they think it’s what voters want to hear. The problem is that voters won’t hear it and don’t care. No one is going to go to the polls in 2026 saying “I really appreciate how Democrats in Congress made an effort to work together with Republicans on bipartisan solutions for the American people, so I’m voting for the Democrat in this House race.

"I think this openness to working with them is less that you are going to see actual collaboration, I think it's that people are trying to set themselves up to have some credibility in other spaces to be against stuff that they're doing," said one former Democratic House aide. "It carries more weight and legitimacy if you're someone who's open minded to working with them, and then they take a hard right and you speak out."

“It carries more weight and legitimacy”? With who, precisely? The answer is, with an imaginary independent voter, one paying close attention to the goings-on in Congress and making their future voting decision on which side they believe operated in good faith.

But this voter does not exist.

I cannot cut and paste enough of this article to do it justice... I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO READ IT YOURSELF as i have said many times , we need to drop the nice guy bipoartisan shit and stop being so willing to cooperate. that gets us NOWHERE except the losing spot on the ballot...

https://paulwaldman.substack.com/p/too-many-democrats-dont-understand



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Well said. Completely agree. K&R c-rational Mar 2025 #1
Thank you for this read mr715 Mar 2025 #2
Yep. nt flying rabbit Mar 2025 #3
Why include 'liberals'? SnoopDog Mar 2025 #4
Yeah, I found that including the word liberal Farmer-Rick Mar 2025 #20
Good point about retired presidents. Have wondered, "Where are the Clintons, Obamas, and Bidens?" allegorical oracle Mar 2025 #40
because the author intends for the readers to view Democrats separately bigtree Mar 2025 #35
And here come the " You're not supporting Democrats" people in three, two, one... luv2fly Mar 2025 #5
This article is spot on IMHO., La Coliniere Mar 2025 #6
Dusting feathers ha ha ha very good! Playingmantis Mar 2025 #16
We're in this mess because we didn't do it leading up to 2010. LuvLoogie Mar 2025 #26
Republicans engage in a street fight, anything to win. In comparison too many Democrats elocs Mar 2025 #7
+1,000,000! Paladin Mar 2025 #13
Amen! benfranklin1776 Mar 2025 #25
Democratic "wimp behavior" is not wimp behavior but the privileged unwillingness to sacrifice their PufPuf23 Mar 2025 #32
I'll accept your claim that you've voted Democratic since 1972. So have I. Paladin Mar 2025 #37
I don't vote for Democrats to work with Republicans. I vote for Democrats to STOP them. n/t Beartracks Mar 2025 #8
Well said! Playingmantis Mar 2025 #19
Thanks! Democrats need to be an OPPOSITION party. Beartracks Mar 2025 #41
Many good points. Here's one: Persuadable voters "assimilate messages about politics -- messages like... Beartracks Mar 2025 #9
I regret that I can only rec this once. n/t Beartracks Mar 2025 #10
Kick dalton99a Mar 2025 #11
This article is missing a massive point. MrSkunkB Mar 2025 #12
Doesnt matter the point still stands.. Playingmantis Mar 2025 #24
Kick Yavin4 Mar 2025 #14
They are totally misreading the room is how I put it boston bean Mar 2025 #15
Appeasement. As per usual. AmericaUnderSiege Mar 2025 #17
go left, but for the people. go FDR. pansypoo53219 Mar 2025 #18
K/R!! progressoid Mar 2025 #21
Ugh, enough with the "working families" leftstreet Mar 2025 #22
That would be... reACTIONary Mar 2025 #29
I don't want to hear that at all. I want them to grow a spine and FIGHT BACK. n/t PatrickforB Mar 2025 #23
Democrats strive to hold Republicans accountable within the existing system Orrex Mar 2025 #27
You can really get a great view of America from the bottom of the Capitol steps. LuvLoogie Mar 2025 #28
Dems need to be more passionate in their orations swong19104 Mar 2025 #30
We've been bullied out of existence with very little opposition. Initech Mar 2025 #31
It's a catch-22 maxrandb Mar 2025 #33
any fucking time anyone wants to actually advocate against republicans instead of this anti-Democratic twaddle bigtree Mar 2025 #34
Democrats have lost the House, and Playingmantis Mar 2025 #36
Democrats have been too cowardly. alarimer Mar 2025 #38
No thanks- trashed...😁 Meowmee Mar 2025 #39
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