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2. jesus
Wed Mar 5, 2025, 11:25 PM
Mar 2025

...why step on actual advocacy?

I don't believe that people who do this are actually interested in anything Democrats might do, ever.

Certainly not in the interest of the party to ignore the actual, party leaders, out of hand.

And why tell me this? I expect people complaining about Democrats not doing something or the other out of critics' own personal interest to do more than just throw stones at people trying to advocate for the party and against republicans here.

What the fuck is the actual point in anyone posting Democratic advocacy here if someone is just going step all over it with misinforming slams?

What the hell do people believe we're doing here? Looking for opposition to Democrats? Fucking amazing to see complaints about Democratic messaging from people who can't be bothered to promote actual advocacy, just coming on to trash it.

Encouraging people to ignore and reject the party leaders actual messaging? For what reason?

You obviously didn't watch the exchanges, which were really important and substantive, urging US to pressure republicans as they act to protect our interests in Congress, like the entire Dem House did in voting unanimously against the republican majority budget.

And so many folks whinging about Dems today obviously are misinformed about the protests efforts of Democrats last night, belittling actual Democrats who have already run political campaigns, lecturing them to do something they thought of, or pretending they care more about confronting Trump than the people who dedicated themselves to this service; supposing the performative nonsense suggested, presented as some political certainty, is some slam dunk political plan for 214 self-confident legislators.

The stunts are short-lived, and I'd expect people who support the party to do more than repeat projections about things they expect 214 Democrats to do that some chose not.

There's no evidence any of the myriad instances where someone said they should act this way or the other would be productive beyond the moment.

There's no rebuttal of the lies in that action, for instance, but I heard many shouts out in real time at Trump from Dems attending, about the lies he was telling from the podium. Saw some on the news.

Where's the rebuttal for Americans in that walkout action against lies that Trump told and republicans intend to use as justification for the destructive cuts to Medicare and Social Security, for example?

It's silliness, and these are seasoned and responsible pols, not children who need scolding; certainly with more political chops than the people throwing stones from the outside who haven't run and won actual political campaigns against republicans.

It isn't actual advocacy against republicans to step all over the party leaders trying to inform voters. And it's not really brilliant politics to expect them to brawl like hooligans. Anyone who had been in politics for as long as I have knows well that voters don't distinguish well between two brawling parties. They just tune out, waiting to hear about them, about their concerns and needs.

The stepping on party leaders advocacy is just anti-party, and no one should expect people advocating for Democrats here and against republicans and Trump to accept this trashing of actual activism and information from the party.

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