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exboyfil

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105. Suspender and belt approach

Reply to Bonhomme Richard (Original post)

Mon Dec 17, 2012, 02:09 PM

Dec 2012

Make everyone happy/angry -

*Armed LEO or equivalent at every school - lets bring our troops home as part of this solution to do this work
*Allow CCW in "No Gun Zones" with substantial penalties for the gun coming out of the holster without a just cause including allowing your gun to be taken away from you by someone else whether it is used or not
*Limit semiautomatic to 10 rounds (or 5) with penalties on larger magazines as noted
*A more extensive and standardized CCW permit course including armed combat simulation (or make this a feature of a more restrictive CCW license that would allow you to carry into a "No Gun Zone&quot CCW applicant to pay for the cost of the course (note this is no different than requiring truck drivers to get additional certifications)

Whatever is done please ignore the ergonomic features of the guns - they mean nothing.

Now is everybody happy and/or angry

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How many of you would be willing to limit magazine capacity to save one child's life? [View all] Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 OP

I am willing, Richard elehhhhna Dec 2012 #1

Seems like a great first step. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #2

depending on the limit bossy22 Dec 2012 #3

10 rounds, NO MORE RomneyLies Dec 2012 #9

That is about five too many. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #13

I think five is enough, but I could go for ten... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #116

Just one life would make it totally worthwhile frazzled Dec 2012 #4

I'll go further. Anybody who refuses to give them up completely after the ban goes in effect RomneyLies Dec 2012 #5

Get ready for a thousand sophisms...there's no use conversing with gun nuts alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #6

^^^ This ^^^ n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #10

Assholes well Berserker Dec 2012 #14

Adam Lanza was law abiding all the way up to the point where he wasn't. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #20

they were law abiding before they did it BainsBane Dec 2012 #25

According to everyone I have spoken to quakerboy Dec 2012 #68

You're anticipating a dozen intruders into your home at once? Wednesdays Dec 2012 #89

Excellent observation. RC Dec 2012 #99

Amen! llmart Dec 2012 #40

Yes. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #7

I would. Chiquitita Dec 2012 #8

I hope that happens. ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #11

Here's some idea of what's out there RomneyLies Dec 2012 #15

Wow - I had no idea. ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #22

"I have no problem doing away with concealed carry" justanidea Dec 2012 #50

Because concealed carry is a STUPID FUCKING IDEA???? RomneyLies Dec 2012 #58

Open carry is a right but it's silly... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #75

Your wild west wet dream is BULLSHIT RomneyLies Dec 2012 #76

No kidding... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #80

And a magazine ban fits in this discussion, how? Wednesdays Dec 2012 #90

Part of the power of being on the offensive is having the gun in your hands jmowreader Dec 2012 #117

I'm from a state and have lived in another state ohheckyeah Dec 2012 #65

Why is there even a need for magazines? leanforward Dec 2012 #57

That's how we did it when I was a kid. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #60

All the action types you just mentioned use magazines. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #72

You can swap a 10-rd magazine for a new one in probably 5 seconds NickB79 Dec 2012 #92

Fine with me SpartanDem Dec 2012 #12

High-death count magazines BainsBane Dec 2012 #16

Massacre Magazines RomneyLies Dec 2012 #17

that works for me too BainsBane Dec 2012 #26

10 rounds good, 11 rounds bad!! derby378 Dec 2012 #18

Then you would do nothing. I got it. n/t Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #21

He reloaded four times with his 30 round massacre magazines. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #24

From what I've heard, he cornered children in classrooms NickB79 Dec 2012 #93

As I recall he had nineteen 10 and 15 round magazines NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #100

Your justifications are no longer acceptable BainsBane Dec 2012 #28

"Sensible," my ass... derby378 Dec 2012 #31

We law-abiding drivers are punished every day because of the actions of bad drivers. jeff47 Dec 2012 #34

Driving is a privilege - gun ownership is a right derby378 Dec 2012 #37

Actually, you seem to have trouble reading the constitiution jeff47 Dec 2012 #38

Your opinion, and yours alone derby378 Dec 2012 #49

It takes a very obtuse soul Tsiyu Dec 2012 #67

human life is a right BainsBane Dec 2012 #48

So, as a law-abiding citizen, why do you need a 100 round magazine? rbixby Dec 2012 #39

I don't but only because of a tendency to jam... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #77

Okay, so then why do you need 30 rounds? rbixby Dec 2012 #95

Work and hobby... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #98

What sort of work requires regularly firing off 30+ rounds of ammo rbixby Dec 2012 #102

Check the avatar... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #103

And what are those responsibilities? rbixby Dec 2012 #107

In my community as well as LEO and others... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #109

in other words you don't give a fuck about the lives of children BainsBane Dec 2012 #46

how is it punishment BainsBane Dec 2012 #51

Why do you consider a 10-round magazine limit tblue37 Dec 2012 #59

I have to take off my shoes every time I fly because of the FAILED actions of one mad man RomneyLies Dec 2012 #61

Bingo! peacebird Dec 2012 #79

Your hobby is now more important than the lives of 20 children DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #88

You're right. pnwmom Dec 2012 #30

That, too, is just another "quick fix" scheme derby378 Dec 2012 #32

Your current ideas require the sacrifice of 20 children. jeff47 Dec 2012 #35

No, that ban had a loophole large enough to drive a gun show through. pnwmom Dec 2012 #36

This time, we're doing it right RomneyLies Dec 2012 #62

This is why topic-knowledgeable people are needed to write the laws. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #74

Count me as one who SheilaT Dec 2012 #19

This. nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #71

What we need is our Congress to be willing Marrah_G Dec 2012 #23

I would. Limit long gun detachable magazines to 5 rounds. Kaleva Dec 2012 #27

Zero capacity is fine with me. undeterred Dec 2012 #29

I'm fine with it. napoleon_in_rags Dec 2012 #33

Slippery slope for me, so no... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #41

Is there a specific freedom to rounds per second with unlimited capacity? Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #44

It's an easy and lazy argument to make... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #78

Holy shit. Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #110

Close enough... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #112

First, tell us what a magazine is. Then I'll tell you what I think about limiting it. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #42

Definitions: see the link. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #70

I already found out in the meantime. But thanks. And I think that's a great idea. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #113

There is no given right to how many rounds.... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #43

I am for magazines compatible with the design of the fire arm per the manufacturer TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #45

the so-called "Democratic" gun lovers have spoken BainsBane Dec 2012 #47

I could easily limit size of magazines, Ilsa Dec 2012 #52

Would you be willing to ban cars if it could save one child's life? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #53

Seriously? renie408 Dec 2012 #55

So is that a no? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #56

Hopefully not you, as your selfishness is clear. Mass Dec 2012 #63

Clearly the regulations governing cars aren't stopping the mass killing of children ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #66

You just earned your place on my ignore list. Mass Dec 2012 #94

I'll say this slowly so you can understand XRubicon Dec 2012 #69

The NRA thanks you for your help spreading their talking points _ed_ Dec 2012 #85

Absolutely, I would say 5 rounds is sufficient for home defense or hunting. Flatulo Dec 2012 #54

How many of you would be willing to give up personal privacy to save on child's life? krispos42 Dec 2012 #64

I'd certainly be willing. But there is one problem: Azathoth Dec 2012 #73

All guns clip/mags over 10 rounds=JAIL kooljerk666 Dec 2012 #81

I am willing to repeal all CCW laws... nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #82

I would! nt raccoon Dec 2012 #83

asbestos long johns in place melm00se Dec 2012 #84

It simply amazes me that people still come up with an argument..... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #86

Hell, I'm not even talking about taking the "Assault Weapons" away. Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #87

I'm all for this, but there's one problem Wednesdays Dec 2012 #91

"It might slow them down a little bit" that alone would be.... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #97

I don't know the specifics but Union Scribe Dec 2012 #111

The Virginia Tech shooter used a lot of 10-rd magazines NickB79 Dec 2012 #96

Maybe we need to also ban the sale of additional magazines TexasBushwhacker Dec 2012 #108

Magazines fail, some quite frequently NickB79 Dec 2012 #115

For 43 years I was staunchly opposed to gun control kwolf68 Dec 2012 #101

I would like to see all AR types any Glocks and 9mm what have you upaloopa Dec 2012 #104

Suspender and belt approach exboyfil Dec 2012 #105

Zero rounds sounds about right relayerbob Dec 2012 #106

Yes! PA Democrat Dec 2012 #114

This is a bandage where a tourniquet is needed jmowreader Dec 2012 #118