Motion to the Members of DU

[Springslips]

61. I vote no.

(Note: I think it's a bit ironic that the OP's avatar is a baby holding a sci-fi gun. If the OP is really concern with gun culture I suggest he/she change her avatar. It is too easy to point elsewhere in times like these than to look at yourself first.)

My view of the Democratic Party is one of a big tent where disagreement happen and should be discussed in rational way. ( which is an epic fail by both sides in the current mud-ball match on-going over guns.) Although, there are certain attitudes one can not have to be a Dem ( racists ones, blatant sexism and hatred of women, homophobia, anti-union, ect) the gun issue has never been one of them. To band a group because one says it has NRA talking points is problematic, as that in itself is an ad homonym and strawman attack:being a point made by the NRA doesn't make the point automatically wrong; a point is wrong or right because of its level of soundness or validity--which can be pointed out in a point-counter point argument without need of using logical fallacies.

The need to band a group based on logical fallacies gives me the impression that the OP side hasn't the ability to argue their views effectively, are losing the battle and have decided that the best way to impose their views is by gagging the opposition--a strategy that goes counter to the democratic belief and conversation and the spirit of free speech. The gun control faction needs to temper their emotional outbursts and activate their reasoning part of their mind if they choose to advance their cause.( to be fair, the gun group people are also acting emotionally with bad arguments but this post was started by a control advocate.)

I do not own guns, have no attraction to them, and I don't have a side. Though we need to have some better control of guns, I support the second amendment. So I haven't decided what change I would support? The discussion here on DU about it hasn't helped me decide; both sides sound like ranting maniacs, and both need their act together.